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Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community. I am unsurprised at Dis

Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community. I am unsurprised at Discord's behavior, handing over a server like that. They have essentially been hostile when not silent to us at WSB with our 600K user server. Reddit has an opportunity to do better here. Hand back control of r/StableDiffusion back to OP. Steve Huffman alluded to the disaster that is sub transitions in the recent Mod Summit. If someone at Reddit is reading this, this is your opportunity to do better.

KaoruAoiShiho 4y ago
OP handed over the subreddit willingly and did not say they wanted it back... There really isn't a big deal other than supposed possible censorship and conflict of interest, but AFAIK there's been no hate threads censored anyway. The only thing "censored" was auto's webUI being removed from the stickied guide and the illegal novelAI leak torrent being removed.
- wsb_mod 4y ago
  There's nothing to indicate they wanted to leave. They are still a mod there (without full perms). They handed over the subreddit under a promise that was immediately broken by the other party. So yes, I suppose you could say they handed it over willingly, but they did so about as willingly as handing money over to an advance-fee scam. However, this is largely irrelevant because what Reddit truly cares about (insofar as community management) is stability, and I think it's fair to say the community is very unstable right now, and is unlikely regain that stability.
- tylersmith 4y ago
  OP handed it over based on a deal that Stability did not hold up their end of.
  - Thorentis 4y ago
    Sure, but that isn't Reddit's problem. Reddit can't step in and choose sides based on he said/she said accusations about moderation drama. The fact is, this person handed over ownership of the sub to somebody else willingly. That's the end of it. Discord was another matter.
    - user_named 4y ago
      Of course they can
    - LightHugger 4y ago
      They do this all the time actually, though it's mainly here the reddit admins personally don't like the existing mods. So they're completely willing to do so for their own whims.
webdoodle 4y ago
Could you link to the Mod Summit your talking about? I wonder if 'sub transitions' is code for stealing subreddits from mods the admins don't politically agree with.
- lrae 4y ago
  Those are not public. Invite only.
- wsb_mod2 4y ago
  I cannot, as it was invite only. (Edit: As lrae said) The context is more around how communities should be able to naturally transition as opposed to only doing so during event-driven periods of great distress (E.g. r/AntiWork -> r/WorkReform). There doesn't seem to be much post-summit discussion about it that I can find. I suspect because it's largely been overshadowed by other, more... spicy, topics.
- Marsey 4y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY
  - guiambros 4y ago
    Seems it didn't last long...
    - Marsey 4y ago
      Oops, luckily the Internet Archive managed to catch it: https://web.archive.org/web/20220402052406/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY https://web.archive.org/web/20220402052406/https://www.youtu...
      - guiambros 4y ago
        Oh wow, I didn't know Internet Archive stored (at least some) YT videos. That must consume quite a lot of storage. Impressive. Thanks for sharing!
mistermann 4y ago
Reddit management may sometimes have to accept marching orders from a higher power - geopolitically, AI is strategically very important as we've seen in various news stories over the last month or so, and being in control of narratives is plain old common sense if you ask me.

KaoruAoiShiho 4y ago

OP handed over the subreddit willingly and did not say they wanted it back... There really isn't a big deal other than supposed possible censorship and conflict of interest, but AFAIK there's been no hate threads censored anyway. The only thing "censored" was auto's webUI being removed from the stickied guide and the illegal novelAI leak torrent being removed.

wsb_mod 4y ago
There's nothing to indicate they wanted to leave. They are still a mod there (without full perms). They handed over the subreddit under a promise that was immediately broken by the other party. So yes, I suppose you could say they handed it over willingly, but they did so about as willingly as handing money over to an advance-fee scam. However, this is largely irrelevant because what Reddit truly cares about (insofar as community management) is stability, and I think it's fair to say the community is very unstable right now, and is unlikely regain that stability.
tylersmith 4y ago
OP handed it over based on a deal that Stability did not hold up their end of.
- Thorentis 4y ago
  Sure, but that isn't Reddit's problem. Reddit can't step in and choose sides based on he said/she said accusations about moderation drama. The fact is, this person handed over ownership of the sub to somebody else willingly. That's the end of it. Discord was another matter.
  - user_named 4y ago
    Of course they can
  - LightHugger 4y ago
    They do this all the time actually, though it's mainly here the reddit admins personally don't like the existing mods. So they're completely willing to do so for their own whims.

webdoodle 4y ago

Could you link to the Mod Summit your talking about? I wonder if 'sub transitions' is code for stealing subreddits from mods the admins don't politically agree with.

lrae 4y ago
Those are not public. Invite only.
wsb_mod2 4y ago
I cannot, as it was invite only. (Edit: As lrae said) The context is more around how communities should be able to naturally transition as opposed to only doing so during event-driven periods of great distress (E.g. r/AntiWork -> r/WorkReform). There doesn't seem to be much post-summit discussion about it that I can find. I suspect because it's largely been overshadowed by other, more... spicy, topics.
Marsey 4y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY
- guiambros 4y ago
  Seems it didn't last long...
  - Marsey 4y ago
    Oops, luckily the Internet Archive managed to catch it: https://web.archive.org/web/20220402052406/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lY8Fc8VzdY https://web.archive.org/web/20220402052406/https://www.youtu...
    - guiambros 4y ago
      Oh wow, I didn't know Internet Archive stored (at least some) YT videos. That must consume quite a lot of storage. Impressive. Thanks for sharing!

mistermann 4y ago

Reddit management may sometimes have to accept marching orders from a higher power - geopolitically, AI is strategically very important as we've seen in various news stories over the last month or so, and being in control of narratives is plain old common sense if you ask me.