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I like what Mozilla has been doing with their services, but they have built a very confusing business model of many micro services that I just don't see a ton o

I like what Mozilla has been doing with their services, but they have built a very confusing business model of many micro services that I just don't see a ton of people signing up for as independent subscriptions. Why not bundle them all as one membership? Pocket, Mozilla VPN, Relay, Monitor, and whatever services they can scrape up premium options and features for to give them value?

groovecoder 4y ago
(Mozilla Privacy & Security ENGR) Stay tuned ... :)
- politelemon 4y ago
  Since you're here looking, please could the relay custom domain feature support custom domains? At the moment it actually generates subdomains.
  - moxieta 4y ago
    i would like this too. i think you can do it with apple email relay. currently i have example.com as my email, which i use with mailbox.org, would it be possible to keep using it with mailbox.org and then for mozilla to allow it to be used for email relays? e.g. name@example.com goes to mailbox.org 3859dhtog@example.com goes to firefox relay (not currently ofc, but a future thing)
    - groovecoder 4y ago
      I assume this means you have an MX record at example.com pointing to your/mailbox.org SMTP server? AIUI, a sending MTA will look up the MX record for example.com by preference order and will deliver emails to the first server that accepts the connection. So it may depend if you can configure your mailbox.org account/server to reject connections from servers trying to send mail to unknown addresses? Then the sending MTA server might "fail over" to the Relay server instead?
  - groovecoder 4y ago
    Yeah, "Bring your own domain" is a super cool feature idea. We could even re-use Acme HTTP-01 or DNS-01 challenges to verify the domain.
- ratata 4y ago
  Great to hear! One suggestion; I think it would be great to have an integration with smartphones Contact apps. This way a user can leverage autocomplete and do not disturb rules on mobile.
  - groovecoder 4y ago
    Oh interesting. Do you mind filing an issue for what you have in mind here? https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/issues/new https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/issues/new FWIW, when you get a Relay number, we text you a contact card for it, so you can save it into your phone's contacts app.
bretbernhoft 4y ago
This makes a lot of sense. But maybe it's the direction that Mozilla is already headed in?
arrosenberg 4y ago
A password manager would fit in nice. Maybe acquire Bitwarden.
- jonas-w 4y ago
  Bitwarden already can generate firefox relay addresses!
- pigeons 4y ago
  I can't tell if /s is missing or not but Mozilla had a standalone password manager eventually it changed its name to Lockwise, and once all my passwords were in it, they sunsetted it even quicker than a google product.
  - arrosenberg 4y ago
    I actually had no idea they did that, that's how short-lived and poorly advertised it must have been :)
  - mr_woozy 4y ago
  - easrng 4y ago
    It's still a thing, they only got rid of the standalone app. Now it's just part of the actual Firefox app though you can apparently use it to autofill in other apps on android at least.
  - jcpst 4y ago
    Integrated into Firefox now. Works similar to how the lockwise app did on iOS.
denton-scratch 4y ago
> Why not bundle them all as one membership? That would be cool; then I could unsubscribe from all of them with a single action. Why is this branded "Firefox"? This is apparently a Mozilla project, unrelated to their web browser.

groovecoder 4y ago

(Mozilla Privacy & Security ENGR) Stay tuned ... :)

politelemon 4y ago
Since you're here looking, please could the relay custom domain feature support custom domains? At the moment it actually generates subdomains.
- moxieta 4y ago
  i would like this too. i think you can do it with apple email relay. currently i have example.com as my email, which i use with mailbox.org, would it be possible to keep using it with mailbox.org and then for mozilla to allow it to be used for email relays? e.g. name@example.com goes to mailbox.org 3859dhtog@example.com goes to firefox relay (not currently ofc, but a future thing)
  - groovecoder 4y ago
    I assume this means you have an MX record at example.com pointing to your/mailbox.org SMTP server? AIUI, a sending MTA will look up the MX record for example.com by preference order and will deliver emails to the first server that accepts the connection. So it may depend if you can configure your mailbox.org account/server to reject connections from servers trying to send mail to unknown addresses? Then the sending MTA server might "fail over" to the Relay server instead?
- groovecoder 4y ago
  Yeah, "Bring your own domain" is a super cool feature idea. We could even re-use Acme HTTP-01 or DNS-01 challenges to verify the domain.
ratata 4y ago
Great to hear! One suggestion; I think it would be great to have an integration with smartphones Contact apps. This way a user can leverage autocomplete and do not disturb rules on mobile.
- groovecoder 4y ago
  Oh interesting. Do you mind filing an issue for what you have in mind here? https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/issues/new https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/issues/new FWIW, when you get a Relay number, we text you a contact card for it, so you can save it into your phone's contacts app.

bretbernhoft 4y ago

This makes a lot of sense. But maybe it's the direction that Mozilla is already headed in?

arrosenberg 4y ago

A password manager would fit in nice. Maybe acquire Bitwarden.

jonas-w 4y ago
Bitwarden already can generate firefox relay addresses!
pigeons 4y ago
I can't tell if /s is missing or not but Mozilla had a standalone password manager eventually it changed its name to Lockwise, and once all my passwords were in it, they sunsetted it even quicker than a google product.
- arrosenberg 4y ago
  I actually had no idea they did that, that's how short-lived and poorly advertised it must have been :)
- mr_woozy 4y ago
- easrng 4y ago
  It's still a thing, they only got rid of the standalone app. Now it's just part of the actual Firefox app though you can apparently use it to autofill in other apps on android at least.
- jcpst 4y ago
  Integrated into Firefox now. Works similar to how the lockwise app did on iOS.

denton-scratch 4y ago

> Why not bundle them all as one membership? That would be cool; then I could unsubscribe from all of them with a single action. Why is this branded "Firefox"? This is apparently a Mozilla project, unrelated to their web browser.