Yeah, I identify with the state and that part struck me a bit as well. Scott's intuition that the phenomenon involves redrawing the self line at some other plac

Yeah, I identify with the state and that part struck me a bit as well. Scott's intuition that the phenomenon involves redrawing the self line at some other place on a deep brain level checks out for me. And if one can no longer point to a self, then that will make it quite difficult to notice when it's under assault. I personally have learned to look at my own behavior in the mirror of others' reactions in order to ascertain what is actually going on in there. I remember getting really really unreasonably angry in an elevator once with other people and not really understanding what I was doing until I saw the look in everyone else's eyes. Didn't feel like anger to me. All emotions... feel different.