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Isn’t hinge addressing this

by travisporter 4y ago

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chrisseaton 4y ago
How are they doing it? Is it a poly app?
- sillysaurusx 4y ago
  Nah, that’s Open.
changoplatanero 4y ago
can you explain more?
- lake_vincent 4y ago
  Their motto is that their app is "meant to be deleted." They don't want to you stay on it, but they DO want you to tell all your single friends about it. Hinge's free tier is absolutely excellent and I have gotten multiple dates, as well as a girlfriend, without paying a cent. What's the catch, you may ask? As with most dating apps, let's just say that if you don't have a "highly competitive" profile, you will struggle if you don't pay for high-volume swiping.
  - Bakary 4y ago
    AFAIK from past discussions on here, the Hinge model is to make it harder with people with a low Elo on the app, and to provide them with more fine-grained options to pay to boost their chances ("roses" etc.) If you have a higher than average Elo, it will seem like having a free lunch. But that's because it's fueled by someone else's desperation at being caught in low Elo feedback loop early. You then have high Elos who cycle through the app quickly and don't pay, and the rest who cycle more slowly and are more likely to pay during their time there.
    - lake_vincent 4y ago
      Yeah, that sounds about right. I am actually single again (ha...), so the quality of the match is not gonna be as deep as a compatability based algo like OKC - Hinge profiles are relatively shallow, and hard to get right. It's much better for getting laid, not finding the love of your life. I don't plan on returning to any apps, because the whole experience feels dehumanizing, and I'm looking for something enduring now.
    - ratww 4y ago
      Isn't that exactly how Tinder also works, or at least used to work? I remember Tinder being heavily criticised for using Elo ranking.
      - Bakary 4y ago
        We'd have to know the algorithm but it's all about the details of how that Elo is implemented, which traits are selected for in which apps, the monetization options etc.
    - soylentcola 4y ago
      I assume "Elo" is their hotness credit score system? I doubt I had a high one - kinda nerdy looking mid 40's dude, not particularly tall or athletic-looking, not particularly wealthy, no constant stream of matches, etc. I found the people in the "rose list" to just look like Instagram profiles with fairly vanilla profiles and standard TV/socmed good looks, whereas I usually fit better with other nerdy weirdos of average/decent looks. It's oversimplification, but that's about as good as I can get as a generalization. I still spent some weekends taking care of things at home and plenty of others with dates over the course of several months. I met a few lovely people who I'd totally say hi and chat with if I ran into them out and about today. I went out a few times with one or two that eventually fizzled. And I went out with one that I wouldn't have met otherwise (lives 45min away) and am still involved with a year later. I never paid for it (Hinge) and just treated it as a way to "surface" potentially interesting people to say hi to, chat with, and potentially date. For all the flaws, it's a more effective way to do this than counting solely on meeting people in your physical sphere.
    - 4y ago
  - actionablefiber 4y ago
    > Their motto is that their app is "meant to be deleted." I have seen this on NYC subway adverts, but is there anything substantially different about their app or business model that backs up their motto?
    - lake_vincent 4y ago
      I mean, in a way yes. For example, super easy to delete your account. No dark patterns or hoops to jump through. Also, the profiles themselves are pretty minimal - they are like ads, and are practically disposable as such. Once I got what I came for, I just threw it out.
      - actionablefiber 4y ago
        > Also, the profiles themselves are pretty minimal - they are like ads, and are practically disposable as such. That sounds pretty counterproductive to me? I feel like many people on Tinder already volunteer way too little information about themselves in their bios. I guess maybe that's OK if you're just swiping based on the person's pics but that seems like a bad strat for finding a partner.
        lake_vincent 4y ago
        It's definitely a bad strat for finding love, but not bad for finding company lol.
fastball 4y ago
Seeing as how Hinge is also owned by the Match Group... probably not.
ratww 4y ago
Is it? To a complete outsider it feels as if Hinge is just becoming the new Tinder. Anecdotal of course (mostly from women friends), but partly supported by the growth of Hinge lately. People looking for relationships don't want to be matched with people only looking for hookups, and people looking for hookups don't want to part of a club that accepts them. Apps have the incentive to make money so they don't really do anything.
- soared 4y ago
  From my friend circle hinge is completely different than tinder/etc and built for the purpose of finding long term matches. Most of my friends, along with myself, found their SO on hinge.

Isn’t hinge addressing this

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chrisseaton 4y ago

How are they doing it? Is it a poly app?

sillysaurusx 4y ago
Nah, that’s Open.

changoplatanero 4y ago

can you explain more?

lake_vincent 4y ago
Their motto is that their app is "meant to be deleted." They don't want to you stay on it, but they DO want you to tell all your single friends about it. Hinge's free tier is absolutely excellent and I have gotten multiple dates, as well as a girlfriend, without paying a cent. What's the catch, you may ask? As with most dating apps, let's just say that if you don't have a "highly competitive" profile, you will struggle if you don't pay for high-volume swiping.
- Bakary 4y ago
  AFAIK from past discussions on here, the Hinge model is to make it harder with people with a low Elo on the app, and to provide them with more fine-grained options to pay to boost their chances ("roses" etc.) If you have a higher than average Elo, it will seem like having a free lunch. But that's because it's fueled by someone else's desperation at being caught in low Elo feedback loop early. You then have high Elos who cycle through the app quickly and don't pay, and the rest who cycle more slowly and are more likely to pay during their time there.
  - lake_vincent 4y ago
    Yeah, that sounds about right. I am actually single again (ha...), so the quality of the match is not gonna be as deep as a compatability based algo like OKC - Hinge profiles are relatively shallow, and hard to get right. It's much better for getting laid, not finding the love of your life. I don't plan on returning to any apps, because the whole experience feels dehumanizing, and I'm looking for something enduring now.
  - ratww 4y ago
    Isn't that exactly how Tinder also works, or at least used to work? I remember Tinder being heavily criticised for using Elo ranking.
    - Bakary 4y ago
      We'd have to know the algorithm but it's all about the details of how that Elo is implemented, which traits are selected for in which apps, the monetization options etc.
  - soylentcola 4y ago
    I assume "Elo" is their hotness credit score system? I doubt I had a high one - kinda nerdy looking mid 40's dude, not particularly tall or athletic-looking, not particularly wealthy, no constant stream of matches, etc. I found the people in the "rose list" to just look like Instagram profiles with fairly vanilla profiles and standard TV/socmed good looks, whereas I usually fit better with other nerdy weirdos of average/decent looks. It's oversimplification, but that's about as good as I can get as a generalization. I still spent some weekends taking care of things at home and plenty of others with dates over the course of several months. I met a few lovely people who I'd totally say hi and chat with if I ran into them out and about today. I went out a few times with one or two that eventually fizzled. And I went out with one that I wouldn't have met otherwise (lives 45min away) and am still involved with a year later. I never paid for it (Hinge) and just treated it as a way to "surface" potentially interesting people to say hi to, chat with, and potentially date. For all the flaws, it's a more effective way to do this than counting solely on meeting people in your physical sphere.
  - 4y ago
- actionablefiber 4y ago
  > Their motto is that their app is "meant to be deleted." I have seen this on NYC subway adverts, but is there anything substantially different about their app or business model that backs up their motto?
  - lake_vincent 4y ago
    I mean, in a way yes. For example, super easy to delete your account. No dark patterns or hoops to jump through. Also, the profiles themselves are pretty minimal - they are like ads, and are practically disposable as such. Once I got what I came for, I just threw it out.
    - actionablefiber 4y ago
      > Also, the profiles themselves are pretty minimal - they are like ads, and are practically disposable as such. That sounds pretty counterproductive to me? I feel like many people on Tinder already volunteer way too little information about themselves in their bios. I guess maybe that's OK if you're just swiping based on the person's pics but that seems like a bad strat for finding a partner.
      - lake_vincent 4y ago
        It's definitely a bad strat for finding love, but not bad for finding company lol.

fastball 4y ago

Seeing as how Hinge is also owned by the Match Group... probably not.

ratww 4y ago

Is it? To a complete outsider it feels as if Hinge is just becoming the new Tinder. Anecdotal of course (mostly from women friends), but partly supported by the growth of Hinge lately. People looking for relationships don't want to be matched with people only looking for hookups, and people looking for hookups don't want to part of a club that accepts them. Apps have the incentive to make money so they don't really do anything.

soared 4y ago
From my friend circle hinge is completely different than tinder/etc and built for the purpose of finding long term matches. Most of my friends, along with myself, found their SO on hinge.