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There are risks that cannot be fully mitigated in your climbing a mountain example - rockfall, avalanche, unstable terrain, sudden storms, etc. Going to the gy

There are risks that cannot be fully mitigated in your climbing a mountain example - rockfall, avalanche, unstable terrain, sudden storms, etc. Going to the gym and doing boring modest stairmaster will be a lot safer than climbing actual mountains. Yet you seem to recommend the accomplishment aspect of climbing mountains.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
The mountain is a metaphor, and it's the hard thing you would be proud of yourself if you did. It may be writing a novel or standing on your head or running a successful business or a kickass parent. In an avalanche of tautology, an accomplishment only matters to you if it matters to you. If it does matter to you, then having tried and failed is arguably better than having been safe and taking no risks and then dying anyway because death knocks on your door no matter how much you try to avoid it.
mixmastamyk 4y ago
So many defeatists in this thread. The GP is not recommending indulging in dangerous activities. Perhaps we shouldn't get out of bed in the morning, we could be injured. There's a non-zero risk that can't be denied. Ammirite?
- kritiko 4y ago
  A lot of athletics is dangerous - I think it's only fair for people to be informed about the risks because often awareness and procedures can mitigate them. I'm a decently strong climber, and I would never discourage people from trying it. But I think an honest presentation should include the risks
  - bradlys 4y ago
    Exactly. I’ve had to stop climbing multiple times due to injuries. It just fucking happens for most of us. I had a fucked up shoulder for 6+ months that limited me from climbing and other activities. Even now - I don’t think about it all the time but it makes different noises and feels than before the incident - and not good ones! It reminds me often of what happened.
    - mixmastamyk 4y ago
      “Climbing a mountain” can include walking up a well-maintained trail at a reasonable grade as well. There’s a guideline here to choose a charitable interpretation of other’s comments. Not the worst possible.

marginalia_nu 4y ago

The mountain is a metaphor, and it's the hard thing you would be proud of yourself if you did. It may be writing a novel or standing on your head or running a successful business or a kickass parent. In an avalanche of tautology, an accomplishment only matters to you if it matters to you. If it does matter to you, then having tried and failed is arguably better than having been safe and taking no risks and then dying anyway because death knocks on your door no matter how much you try to avoid it.

mixmastamyk 4y ago

So many defeatists in this thread. The GP is not recommending indulging in dangerous activities. Perhaps we shouldn't get out of bed in the morning, we could be injured. There's a non-zero risk that can't be denied. Ammirite?

kritiko 4y ago
A lot of athletics is dangerous - I think it's only fair for people to be informed about the risks because often awareness and procedures can mitigate them. I'm a decently strong climber, and I would never discourage people from trying it. But I think an honest presentation should include the risks
- bradlys 4y ago
  Exactly. I’ve had to stop climbing multiple times due to injuries. It just fucking happens for most of us. I had a fucked up shoulder for 6+ months that limited me from climbing and other activities. Even now - I don’t think about it all the time but it makes different noises and feels than before the incident - and not good ones! It reminds me often of what happened.
  - mixmastamyk 4y ago
    “Climbing a mountain” can include walking up a well-maintained trail at a reasonable grade as well. There’s a guideline here to choose a charitable interpretation of other’s comments. Not the worst possible.