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Ok. What exactly are you trying to imply? It's hard to draw conclusions from your gaps, it's pretty clear that you are saying that young African-American men co

by piva00 4y ago

Ok. What exactly are you trying to imply? It's hard to draw conclusions from your gaps, it's pretty clear that you are saying that young African-American men commit more violent crimes per capita. What should I draw from this though? That the USA has a violent history with slavery and segregation and those scars haven't been healed, that the government hasn't figured out a way to fix this historical issue? Or should I draw some other conclusion that I prefer to not type out because it'd be too disgusting to even entertain it?

bm3719 4y ago
Probably the only safe thing to say with these facts in mind is that we haven't found a solution to this problem that both reduces the crime output of those likely to commit it, and also treads carefully across our collective sensitivities surrounding the topic. Maybe that's an impossible task given those requirements. If it were easy, we'd probably have found the solution by now. We're pretty sensitive about numbers like that after all, to the point that I'm generally reluctant to quote them.
- Jochim 4y ago
  > Probably the only safe thing to say with these facts in mind is that we haven't found a solution to this problem that both reduces the crime output of those likely to commit it, and also treads carefully across our collective sensitivities surrounding the topic. It's certainly the thing to say if you don't feel like actually changing anything. The main reason behind the disparity in crime demographics become fairly apparent when you compare them to the statistics on poverty demographics. Research shows a correlation between poverty/income inequality and rate of violent crime. It follows that reducing the crime rate, regardless of demographic, is a matter of raising people out of poverty and reducing the level of societal inequality. > If it were easy, we'd probably have found the solution by now. Quite frankly, most countries haven't even tried looking for one. Most prison systems only put people through a process that only makes them more likely to reoffend. The insane thing about this is we know that some places are better but we make excuses and refuse to change.

by piva00 4y ago

bm3719 4y ago

Probably the only safe thing to say with these facts in mind is that we haven't found a solution to this problem that both reduces the crime output of those likely to commit it, and also treads carefully across our collective sensitivities surrounding the topic. Maybe that's an impossible task given those requirements. If it were easy, we'd probably have found the solution by now. We're pretty sensitive about numbers like that after all, to the point that I'm generally reluctant to quote them.

Jochim 4y ago
> Probably the only safe thing to say with these facts in mind is that we haven't found a solution to this problem that both reduces the crime output of those likely to commit it, and also treads carefully across our collective sensitivities surrounding the topic. It's certainly the thing to say if you don't feel like actually changing anything. The main reason behind the disparity in crime demographics become fairly apparent when you compare them to the statistics on poverty demographics. Research shows a correlation between poverty/income inequality and rate of violent crime. It follows that reducing the crime rate, regardless of demographic, is a matter of raising people out of poverty and reducing the level of societal inequality. > If it were easy, we'd probably have found the solution by now. Quite frankly, most countries haven't even tried looking for one. Most prison systems only put people through a process that only makes them more likely to reoffend. The insane thing about this is we know that some places are better but we make excuses and refuse to change.