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The FBI is racist and fabricated these stats, as we all know.

EdwardDiego 4y ago
If we're erecting dumb strawmen, let me erect one in the shape of the parent comment - African-Americans are over-represented in crime, because they're just like that. Quod erat dumbonstrandum.
- parkingrift 4y ago
  You do know that there are other demographics than race?
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    All of which were mentioned by a grandparent comment, then quoted and commented on as being insufficient to understand "who" is committing crime, by the person I was replying to. If you can't see what their gist was, well, that's a you thing.
    - parkingrift 4y ago
      Nope. Grandparent comment asked why the US is a violent society. Absolute top comment on the chain is just outright incarceration numbers. No one asked anything about race until you came along.
      - Jochim 4y ago
        Crime statistics split by demographic are commonly used as a dog whistle by racists. The people posting them typically aren't interested in discussing the reasons behind a particular demographic committing more crime beyond asserting that it's due to inherent traits. That those statistics were posted as a dog whistle is backed up by the user's other posts. On Portugal's African colonies: > The only thing to apologize is to ourselves. We should haver never went there and left you in the stone age. > All the infrastructure we left you weren't able to maintain, as it happened with 99% of the African countries. > Total mystery why. Casual quotation marks around youngsters: > And now robbing stores is becoming rampant as we can all testify by the loads of videos of "youngsters" entering stores and taking what they want without anyone doing anything.
      - EdwardDiego 4y ago
        There are none so blind as those that won't see. I hope you're only playing dumb.
attemptone 4y ago
The problem is not with stating the facts. Because facts and numbers have no meaning in themselves. The problem comes from the things that you're supposedly implying. This isn't entirely your fault, because this line of thinking is brought up again and again. People know what someone is trying to say if someone just pulls up this kind of statistic. Your fault (if it's an honest mistake) is not being aware enough of the discussion around this topic and the lack of articulateness in your comment. >The FBI is racist and fabricates stats This, but unironically
teh64 4y ago
"The FBI is racist": ever heard of COINTELPRO? I think trying to undermine the civil rights movement (among others) could be classified as racist, do you not agree? Also "FBI crime stats" is probably one of the loudest dog whistles, more like a fog horn at this point.

If we're erecting dumb strawmen, let me erect one in the shape of the parent comment - African-Americans are over-represented in crime, because they're just like that. Quod erat dumbonstrandum.

parkingrift 4y ago
You do know that there are other demographics than race?
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  All of which were mentioned by a grandparent comment, then quoted and commented on as being insufficient to understand "who" is committing crime, by the person I was replying to. If you can't see what their gist was, well, that's a you thing.
  - parkingrift 4y ago
    Nope. Grandparent comment asked why the US is a violent society. Absolute top comment on the chain is just outright incarceration numbers. No one asked anything about race until you came along.
    - Jochim 4y ago
      Crime statistics split by demographic are commonly used as a dog whistle by racists. The people posting them typically aren't interested in discussing the reasons behind a particular demographic committing more crime beyond asserting that it's due to inherent traits. That those statistics were posted as a dog whistle is backed up by the user's other posts. On Portugal's African colonies: > The only thing to apologize is to ourselves. We should haver never went there and left you in the stone age. > All the infrastructure we left you weren't able to maintain, as it happened with 99% of the African countries. > Total mystery why. Casual quotation marks around youngsters: > And now robbing stores is becoming rampant as we can all testify by the loads of videos of "youngsters" entering stores and taking what they want without anyone doing anything.
    - EdwardDiego 4y ago
      There are none so blind as those that won't see. I hope you're only playing dumb.

attemptone 4y ago

The problem is not with stating the facts. Because facts and numbers have no meaning in themselves. The problem comes from the things that you're supposedly implying. This isn't entirely your fault, because this line of thinking is brought up again and again. People know what someone is trying to say if someone just pulls up this kind of statistic. Your fault (if it's an honest mistake) is not being aware enough of the discussion around this topic and the lack of articulateness in your comment. >The FBI is racist and fabricates stats This, but unironically

teh64 4y ago

"The FBI is racist": ever heard of COINTELPRO? I think trying to undermine the civil rights movement (among others) could be classified as racist, do you not agree? Also "FBI crime stats" is probably one of the loudest dog whistles, more like a fog horn at this point.