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Such an algorithm would need to have a deep understanding of the human condition and how the world works in order to provide such output. I think it would basic

Such an algorithm would need to have a deep understanding of the human condition and how the world works in order to provide such output. I think it would basically require a full-fledged AGI (artificial general intelligence).

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
deep understanding of human condition - prodive example of the thing that is not human and understands it the least? You couldn't make it up How about, you know, philosophers and other learned people who's life job is to study it?
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  I don't quite understand what exactly are you saying. I have mistakenly written "argument" instead of "algorithm" in my original post (edited now), which may have lead to a misunderstanding. Otherwise, could you please elaborate?
lyu07282 4y ago
You might just need a large amount of click stream data from wikipedia, there is probably a cluster of people who trend to have such an awareness of the human condition. So it wouldn't require AGI to figure out a list of topics you should probably be aware of based on some sample topics. Although afaik such data is not stored by Wikimedia for privacy reasons, only less useful referrer data[1]. Another signal source might be based on the assumption that the important bits would be subject of suppression efforts, like topics that disappeared from school curriculum, internet censorship filter rules (for example [2]), takedown notices, banned books, topics journalists wrote about that were fired/defenestrated, wikipedia articles that were removed/renamed or heavily edited, unusual court cases with abnormal patterns might be recoverable from public records (like the Steven Donziger case [3]), websites on the internet archive that were taken down by infrastructure companies, there might be topics that are ignored by modern historians etc. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstre... [2] https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=European+Commission https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Europea... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

deep understanding of human condition - prodive example of the thing that is not human and understands it the least? You couldn't make it up How about, you know, philosophers and other learned people who's life job is to study it?

bheadmaster 4y ago
I don't quite understand what exactly are you saying. I have mistakenly written "argument" instead of "algorithm" in my original post (edited now), which may have lead to a misunderstanding. Otherwise, could you please elaborate?

lyu07282 4y ago

You might just need a large amount of click stream data from wikipedia, there is probably a cluster of people who trend to have such an awareness of the human condition. So it wouldn't require AGI to figure out a list of topics you should probably be aware of based on some sample topics. Although afaik such data is not stored by Wikimedia for privacy reasons, only less useful referrer data[1]. Another signal source might be based on the assumption that the important bits would be subject of suppression efforts, like topics that disappeared from school curriculum, internet censorship filter rules (for example [2]), takedown notices, banned books, topics journalists wrote about that were fired/defenestrated, wikipedia articles that were removed/renamed or heavily edited, unusual court cases with abnormal patterns might be recoverable from public records (like the Steven Donziger case [3]), websites on the internet archive that were taken down by infrastructure companies, there might be topics that are ignored by modern historians etc. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstre... [2] https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=European+Commission https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Europea... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger