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"Russo argues that scientific progress largely came to an end by 150 BCE, and the Roman period saw an actual decline in scientific understanding." Off topic, b
by lkrubner 4y ago
"Russo argues that scientific progress largely came to an end by 150 BCE, and the Roman period saw an actual decline in scientific understanding."
Off topic, but apparently something similar happened in China, at roughly the same dates. The era of innovation was surprisingly early, and it was over before these civilizations reached their material peak. I just read this book:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1936166755/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1936166755/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...
This focuses on the political debate, which in some ways measures the extent of the intellectual awakening. It truly shifted my perspective about the depth of political debate in China. Apparently the lead up to the Warring States Periods, and then the Warring States Period itself, caused the greatest political debate that had existed anywhere in the world up to that point. Almost every idea was put forward: liberalism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, constitutionally limited monarchy, centralization of the economy, decentralization of the economy, primitivism but then also some praise of the benefits of specialization and the use of economic elites. Each state was trying to win the popularity contest, and various princes occasionally tried very liberal government to win over the populace to contribute more to the war effort.
And this whole era came to a sudden end in 221 BC, when Chin was victorious in uniting all of China. But before that, China had seen an incredible intellectual awakening.
The point is, in Europe and China, the era of intense intellectual activity happened centuries before the imperial consolidation, and centuries before the material peak of the classical era.
- mlatu 4y agoi suspect economic shifts due to the wars made this happen in china and in greece. having a job is nice and all, but when you can just do ~whatever~ instead, innovation-magic happens.