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> Healthcare and housing costs are some of the biggest stifles to innovation in this country. (Assuming you are referring to the US) France has free healthcare

> Healthcare and housing costs are some of the biggest stifles to innovation in this country. (Assuming you are referring to the US) France has free healthcare, free education and a high degree of rent control. Do you have any quantitative data about a higher level of innovation coming out of France? I haven't seen any evidence as such. UK has free healthcare (though not sure about housing costs). Does it have any higher innovate rate than the US? What about Norway, which has an even better safety net than both France and the UK? I haven't heard much about Norwegian innovation, though happy to be proven wrong. In general, innovation seems to be correlated to cultural factors and hunger of the population (eg. Singapore or Israel). This link[0] shows venture funding per capita which seems to be a good proxy - US is #4 and has 4x the score of France, Norway is not even in that list. Maybe that is a poor metric, but if you have a better one to support your claim, happy to be proven wrong. [0] https://news.crunchbase.com/startups/countries-most-startup-investment/ https://news.crunchbase.com/startups/countries-most-startup-...

asdff 4y ago
What about norway indeed? "Rates of start-up creation here are among the highest in the developed world, and Norway has more entrepreneurs per capita than the United States, according to the latest report by the Global Entrepreneurship Monitor, a Boston-based research consortium. A 2010 study released by the U.S. Small Business Administration reported a similar result: Although America remains near the top of the world in terms of entrepreneurial aspirations -- that is, the percentage of people who want to start new things—in terms of actual start-up activity, our country has fallen behind not just Norway but also Canada, Denmark, and Switzerland." https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-sa...
- RestlessMind 4y ago
  Hmm interesting. I checked up two other sources[0,1] and those ones have US / UK / Israel / Canada / Australia etc above Norway when it comes to Startup environment. So I still don't see enough evidence for the original point (healthcare and cheap housing being essential). A lot of those countries (esp. UK / AU / Canada) apparently have a housing situation far worse than the US. And yet, they are thriving compared to other countries. Btw, I will also admit that France is ranking much better per those sources. So now it seems evidence for "cheap housing being essential" is all over the place? [0] https://about.crunchbase.com/blog/trends-global-startup-ecosystem-2022/ https://about.crunchbase.com/blog/trends-global-startup-ecos... [1] https://ceoworld.biz/2021/01/03/worlds-most-entrepreneurial-countries-2021/ https://ceoworld.biz/2021/01/03/worlds-most-entrepreneurial-...

asdff 4y ago

What about norway indeed? "Rates of start-up creation here are among the highest in the developed world, and Norway has more entrepreneurs per capita than the United States, according to the latest report by the Global Entrepreneurship Monitor, a Boston-based research consortium. A 2010 study released by the U.S. Small Business Administration reported a similar result: Although America remains near the top of the world in terms of entrepreneurial aspirations -- that is, the percentage of people who want to start new things—in terms of actual start-up activity, our country has fallen behind not just Norway but also Canada, Denmark, and Switzerland." https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-sa...

RestlessMind 4y ago
Hmm interesting. I checked up two other sources[0,1] and those ones have US / UK / Israel / Canada / Australia etc above Norway when it comes to Startup environment. So I still don't see enough evidence for the original point (healthcare and cheap housing being essential). A lot of those countries (esp. UK / AU / Canada) apparently have a housing situation far worse than the US. And yet, they are thriving compared to other countries. Btw, I will also admit that France is ranking much better per those sources. So now it seems evidence for "cheap housing being essential" is all over the place? [0] https://about.crunchbase.com/blog/trends-global-startup-ecosystem-2022/ https://about.crunchbase.com/blog/trends-global-startup-ecos... [1] https://ceoworld.biz/2021/01/03/worlds-most-entrepreneurial-countries-2021/ https://ceoworld.biz/2021/01/03/worlds-most-entrepreneurial-...