> The moralogians appeal to nothing and expect you to accept it! Is the origin of moral facts natural, or supernatural? If natural, can we engineer our own? Why

> The moralogians appeal to nothing and expect you to accept it! Is the origin of moral facts natural, or supernatural? If natural, can we engineer our own? Why or why not? This is a strikingly bold way to put it I think. Of course morals are natural in origin, and the shared basis for them is genetic at its core. Does this imply there is some grand plan outside of natural selection for them? Of course not. Does it mean that these rules can be engineered to our liking? No more than you can engineer your own DNA. Maybe someday, but what's the reason? Our billions of years of evolution has done a pretty good job of it IMO. As for altruism, it's painfully obvious that a) it does exist, and that b) it is a universal condition we all hold. Where did altruism come from? Dawkins points to our ancestor's lengthy existence in a small group of ~200 individuals. Survival meant not only optimizing for your own genetic survival, but for that of the collective. Imagine for a moment the vast bulk of humanity living without altruism. I suspect things would fall to pieces very quickly. It's a good thing our genetic code is littered with bits of rules like altruism.