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Unrelated to android, but I would just like to mention, that today best working implementation of linux on phones is Sailfish OS ( https://sailfishos.org/ https

by stiray 4y ago

Unrelated to android, but I would just like to mention, that today best working implementation of linux on phones is Sailfish OS ( https://sailfishos.org/ https://sailfishos.org/ - not connected with them all, but I use it as daily driver after years of searching; I was using angstrom distro on HTC Blueangel so you can imagine I have searched for long ). It would be really nice if the community would concentrate on one distribution instead supporting 674 of them and have none really usable.

rjzzleep 4y ago
I would agree and I find it sad/odd that it never really managed to get any active developer community traction.
RussianCow 4y ago
Sailfish isn't fully open source, which makes the comparison to other Linux distributions moot.
- stiray 4y ago
  It works, which gives everything else that doesnt work a joke prefix. I am not here to support Stallman style political warfare "who is more open source and less working". I am just stating the obvious. Sailfish works. Everything else I have seen is a non working joke, that is unusable. Feel free to prove me wrong. Not with bullshit, downvoting and PRing. URL please. Not political BSing about which project is completely open source but no one sane would use as it is completely unusable. Which is actually the topic here. Open source is great but < working phone (less than 10 years old), with usable front and back camera, 4g, phone calls that don't reset your phone, SMS messages that are actually delivered and... oh... ah... Bruce Almighty... working fingerprint reader.
  - RussianCow 4y ago
    I'm sorry I touched a nerve. :) We already have a "working" Linux distribution for mobile devices: Android. But what projects like Pine and Librem are trying to do is build an alternative that is 100% open source (or as close as reasonably possible) and does not rely on proprietary, third-party services. If that's not important to you, that's fine, but don't dismiss the progress that's been made. Some of us actually care about this stuff. :) I'm also not sure how Sailfish is relevant to this discussion at all while Android exists and is the dominant (non-iOS) mobile platform.
ngrost24 4y ago
I'm not an expert in the area and hadn't heard about Sailfish before, so I took a look and stumbled on this article [0] of Rosteltelekom (Russian national company) acquiring majority in the company Jolla that produces Sailfish OS, which makes everything about Sailfish a bit less enticing from a security perspective. Another article [1] from a few months back says that Rosteltelekom owns about 45% and Jolla is trying to find another EU company to buy those shares, but didn't see anything more recent. [0] https://together.jolla.com/question/178875/rostelecom-acquiring-votron-the-majority-owner-in-jolla/ https://together.jolla.com/question/178875/rostelecom-acquir... [1] https://www.engadget.com/jolla-samuli-simojoki-post-russia-124511273.html https://www.engadget.com/jolla-samuli-simojoki-post-russia-1...

by stiray 4y ago

rjzzleep 4y ago

I would agree and I find it sad/odd that it never really managed to get any active developer community traction.

RussianCow 4y ago

Sailfish isn't fully open source, which makes the comparison to other Linux distributions moot.

stiray 4y ago
It works, which gives everything else that doesnt work a joke prefix. I am not here to support Stallman style political warfare "who is more open source and less working". I am just stating the obvious. Sailfish works. Everything else I have seen is a non working joke, that is unusable. Feel free to prove me wrong. Not with bullshit, downvoting and PRing. URL please. Not political BSing about which project is completely open source but no one sane would use as it is completely unusable. Which is actually the topic here. Open source is great but < working phone (less than 10 years old), with usable front and back camera, 4g, phone calls that don't reset your phone, SMS messages that are actually delivered and... oh... ah... Bruce Almighty... working fingerprint reader.
- RussianCow 4y ago
  I'm sorry I touched a nerve. :) We already have a "working" Linux distribution for mobile devices: Android. But what projects like Pine and Librem are trying to do is build an alternative that is 100% open source (or as close as reasonably possible) and does not rely on proprietary, third-party services. If that's not important to you, that's fine, but don't dismiss the progress that's been made. Some of us actually care about this stuff. :) I'm also not sure how Sailfish is relevant to this discussion at all while Android exists and is the dominant (non-iOS) mobile platform.

ngrost24 4y ago

I'm not an expert in the area and hadn't heard about Sailfish before, so I took a look and stumbled on this article [0] of Rosteltelekom (Russian national company) acquiring majority in the company Jolla that produces Sailfish OS, which makes everything about Sailfish a bit less enticing from a security perspective. Another article [1] from a few months back says that Rosteltelekom owns about 45% and Jolla is trying to find another EU company to buy those shares, but didn't see anything more recent. [0] https://together.jolla.com/question/178875/rostelecom-acquiring-votron-the-majority-owner-in-jolla/ https://together.jolla.com/question/178875/rostelecom-acquir... [1] https://www.engadget.com/jolla-samuli-simojoki-post-russia-124511273.html https://www.engadget.com/jolla-samuli-simojoki-post-russia-1...