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Sounds exaggerated but I see the point you're trying to make. You need to consider that the underlying thing for these censorship machines, is an automaton of

Sounds exaggerated but I see the point you're trying to make. You need to consider that the underlying thing for these censorship machines, is an automaton of algebraic optimizations (I refuse to call that AI intentionally as they are not intelligence) trained to mimic judgments by people with ideologies. These ideologies form a cosmovision of life, the universe and everything and judge everything based on it. When they are stupid, they impose the judgment making their stupidity mandatory. PS: your last two sentences are highly accurate, and note that a big problem resides in the part were you say you can somehow avoid the deplatforming because for most people, that means adapting themselves to obey the madatory stupidity of these machines, treating them as peer pressure and molding our behavior. But do they deserve that obedience? Why are we giving it to them? Is this the beginning of a slippery slope that ends up making in the future imposible to organics to disobey artificials? (great for SiFi movie plots BTW)

graderjs 4y ago
The story itself is not exaggerated at all. It's the facts. Maybe you meant the tone, etc. That's how I feel about it, hope I expressed that, think I did. I think you got that...But I wouldn't say the tone is exaggerated at all, this is a f** nightmare this kind of thing. And I think I've accurately expressed the nature of it, I'm pretty f** happy with these words actually Maybe I wouldn't have felt this way until I'd actually come across someone I considered outside the dragnet for this type of chaos, dragged into it. So maybe that was the tipping point for me to express this and craft this wordful expression The fundamental wrong: why should someone have to pay you (a company) anything (time, money, stress) for your stupid f*** mistake? At least, company should own the f*** mistake, and never ever put someone through bureaucratic bs to right it. it's just f*** abusive. I don't accept that this is a necessary consequence of required automation at scale...you just have to f*** do it better. the issue is there's no metric / incentive. inside the orgs a lack of moral fibre means people don't intrinsically incentivize preventing these bads, outside the orgs the lack of gov regulation means they have no external consequences for fucking people over. this shit must end
sp332 4y ago
I don't know about that case, but a2_4am was locked out of his Twitter account until he agreed yo delete a video of a computer booting up, because it was flagged as porn. This went through a lot of appeals and internal escalation at Twitter, but there was no recourse. https://mobile.twitter.com/textfiles/status/1536378776094908422 https://mobile.twitter.com/textfiles/status/1536378776094908... Another recent case https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32202481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32202481
- graderjs 4y ago
  The case I mentioned (I thought it was subscriber content only, but seems not): https://mysticmedusa.com/what-the-astro-fuq/are-misinformation-fines-pluto-in-aquarian/ https://mysticmedusa.com/what-the-astro-fuq/are-misinformati...

graderjs 4y ago

The story itself is not exaggerated at all. It's the facts. Maybe you meant the tone, etc. That's how I feel about it, hope I expressed that, think I did. I think you got that...But I wouldn't say the tone is exaggerated at all, this is a f** nightmare this kind of thing. And I think I've accurately expressed the nature of it, I'm pretty f** happy with these words actually Maybe I wouldn't have felt this way until I'd actually come across someone I considered outside the dragnet for this type of chaos, dragged into it. So maybe that was the tipping point for me to express this and craft this wordful expression The fundamental wrong: why should someone have to pay you (a company) anything (time, money, stress) for your stupid f*** mistake? At least, company should own the f*** mistake, and never ever put someone through bureaucratic bs to right it. it's just f*** abusive. I don't accept that this is a necessary consequence of required automation at scale...you just have to f*** do it better. the issue is there's no metric / incentive. inside the orgs a lack of moral fibre means people don't intrinsically incentivize preventing these bads, outside the orgs the lack of gov regulation means they have no external consequences for fucking people over. this shit must end

sp332 4y ago

I don't know about that case, but a2_4am was locked out of his Twitter account until he agreed yo delete a video of a computer booting up, because it was flagged as porn. This went through a lot of appeals and internal escalation at Twitter, but there was no recourse. https://mobile.twitter.com/textfiles/status/1536378776094908422 https://mobile.twitter.com/textfiles/status/1536378776094908... Another recent case https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32202481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32202481

graderjs 4y ago
The case I mentioned (I thought it was subscriber content only, but seems not): https://mysticmedusa.com/what-the-astro-fuq/are-misinformation-fines-pluto-in-aquarian/ https://mysticmedusa.com/what-the-astro-fuq/are-misinformati...