5 ms·

Here's one: it has way more bugs, and it's much less reliable.

by unsafecast 4y ago

ThunderSizzle 4y ago
Couldn't that be said about Windows 10 compared to its predecessors?
- unsafecast 4y ago
  Maybe. I've always postponed upgrading, so I've never seen the early bugs (until now). The living room PC ran windows xp until 2016 (because it was only really used to play music, organize files and some photo editing).
- PeterisP 4y ago
  No, when Windows 10 was released, it generally felt more stable than Windows 8 (which, on the other hand, felt worse than Windows 7 and was skipped by many organizations who went straight from 7 to 10).
  - ThunderSizzle 4y ago
    That's an interesting perspective. Windows 8.1 felt much more stable than Windows 10. Even on a fresh Windows 10 install, I had to make sure to restart explorer.exe at least once a day, if not every couple of hours, to ensure I didn't start getting random "UI lag". Never had to do that before Windows 10. Windows 10 also didn't solve the problem of half of the settings being in some sort of MetroUI and the other half being in traditional Win32 forms.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
I'm curious, do you have sources on that? I haven't upgraded my gaming PC to windows 11 yet, but I'll probably be forced to eventually so I'm interested in this.
- unsafecast 4y ago
  Only empirical evidence. I did a fresh windows install to the (officially supported) living room PC and I have to deal with crap so often that I'll probably switch it back. Some examples: - Bluetooth stops working once in about a week and only starts working again after ~3 reboots and some luck. Reinstalled drivers and fiddled with it many times. - WiFi just stopped working altogether 3 weeks into the upgrade. It just refuses to work. Again, reinstalled (officially supported) drivers and messed with it a lot. - The fans go louder and it's generally hotter. - This may be a really weird bug that's possibly irrelevant, but the bootloader loves to erase itself from the efi boot options. If you go into the efi settings you have to manually add it, if you don't it'll work until you do. - General UI bugs (lots of them) - Subjective, but way more convoluted and annoying UI I've heard the same kinds of things from other people too. My advice is to skip upgrading for as long as you possibly can.
  - notshift 4y ago
    I built a new PC recently and installed Windows 11 on it. The bluetooth & sound UIs were completely broken. I had two headsets connected, one was displaying as "Default for audio" but sound was coming through on the other one, and for the life of me I could not figure out how to change sound to the other headset. I think it wasn't showing up in the Sound menu despite clearly showing as connected (disconnecting and reconnecting didn't help). Definitely agree with the sentiment to hold off on the upgrade as long as possible.
- tssva 4y ago
  since the person you asked is only providing a single anecdotal experience, I thought I would add mine. I find the UI to be more refined and more responsive than Windows 10. My laptop upgrade went smoothly, and I have had no issues with stability. It feels overall snappier, and my battery life is a little better.
  - jimpudar 4y ago
    Same here. Been on Windows 11 Pro for a few months now and have had absolutely no issues whatsoever. Definitely like the UI improvements.

Here's one: it has way more bugs, and it's much less reliable.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

Couldn't that be said about Windows 10 compared to its predecessors?

unsafecast 4y ago
Maybe. I've always postponed upgrading, so I've never seen the early bugs (until now). The living room PC ran windows xp until 2016 (because it was only really used to play music, organize files and some photo editing).
PeterisP 4y ago
No, when Windows 10 was released, it generally felt more stable than Windows 8 (which, on the other hand, felt worse than Windows 7 and was skipped by many organizations who went straight from 7 to 10).
- ThunderSizzle 4y ago
  That's an interesting perspective. Windows 8.1 felt much more stable than Windows 10. Even on a fresh Windows 10 install, I had to make sure to restart explorer.exe at least once a day, if not every couple of hours, to ensure I didn't start getting random "UI lag". Never had to do that before Windows 10. Windows 10 also didn't solve the problem of half of the settings being in some sort of MetroUI and the other half being in traditional Win32 forms.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago

I'm curious, do you have sources on that? I haven't upgraded my gaming PC to windows 11 yet, but I'll probably be forced to eventually so I'm interested in this.

unsafecast 4y ago
Only empirical evidence. I did a fresh windows install to the (officially supported) living room PC and I have to deal with crap so often that I'll probably switch it back. Some examples: - Bluetooth stops working once in about a week and only starts working again after ~3 reboots and some luck. Reinstalled drivers and fiddled with it many times. - WiFi just stopped working altogether 3 weeks into the upgrade. It just refuses to work. Again, reinstalled (officially supported) drivers and messed with it a lot. - The fans go louder and it's generally hotter. - This may be a really weird bug that's possibly irrelevant, but the bootloader loves to erase itself from the efi boot options. If you go into the efi settings you have to manually add it, if you don't it'll work until you do. - General UI bugs (lots of them) - Subjective, but way more convoluted and annoying UI I've heard the same kinds of things from other people too. My advice is to skip upgrading for as long as you possibly can.
- notshift 4y ago
  I built a new PC recently and installed Windows 11 on it. The bluetooth & sound UIs were completely broken. I had two headsets connected, one was displaying as "Default for audio" but sound was coming through on the other one, and for the life of me I could not figure out how to change sound to the other headset. I think it wasn't showing up in the Sound menu despite clearly showing as connected (disconnecting and reconnecting didn't help). Definitely agree with the sentiment to hold off on the upgrade as long as possible.
tssva 4y ago
since the person you asked is only providing a single anecdotal experience, I thought I would add mine. I find the UI to be more refined and more responsive than Windows 10. My laptop upgrade went smoothly, and I have had no issues with stability. It feels overall snappier, and my battery life is a little better.
- jimpudar 4y ago
  Same here. Been on Windows 11 Pro for a few months now and have had absolutely no issues whatsoever. Definitely like the UI improvements.