Not sure how Smalltalk measures up in that regard, but wouldn't one also need to count things like define-syntax and all things, which are built-in for defining

Not sure how Smalltalk measures up in that regard, but wouldn't one also need to count things like define-syntax and all things, which are built-in for defining macros? I guess that would only be fair, because that gets Lisps up to the same power level as Smalltalk with its introspection and ability to create classes at runtime, since they are objects as well. Then there are things like "What is the syntax for a vector?" and all kinds of reader syntax with "# + something", depending on the dialect/specific lisp language, I guess. EDIT: Found this: https://wiki.c2.com/?SmalltalkSyntaxInaPostcard https://wiki.c2.com/?SmalltalkSyntaxInaPostcard