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I actually think that the place where it could potentially really shine is when you have to do remote shell work. I don't know if you can specify the runtime fo

I actually think that the place where it could potentially really shine is when you have to do remote shell work. I don't know if you can specify the runtime folder but if you use it as a simple replacement for nano on old machines that don't have a proper editor this would be perfect.

kamaal 4y ago
vscode is very good at this, and is the primary reason why I even use it. Frankly speaking the vim/emacs lines are yet to catch up with this sort of thinking. vscode feels like you are editing on the local machine. The experience is seamless and feels magical.
- sceadu 4y ago
  You can use tramp in emacs?
  - monsieurbanana 4y ago
    I can't vouch too much for it as I've used it for maybe 1 hour tops, but the remote capabilities of vscode were pretty seamless for that one hour. Emacs+Tramp definitely does not feel like you're editing locally. A surprising amount of things work, but many others will fail in annoying ways or are just clearly not supported.
  - kamaal 4y ago
    Tramp in all honesty was not that seamless, its just that these are great editors, but they were not invented in the context of the overall changes in how programming is done today. To me the biggest plus of emacs/vim is they make it easy to navigate and manipulate text, that's pretty much it. Every other feature seems to be an after thought therefore is not subject to the same experience the modern editors have. They also have a huge learning and set up time, and can send you down configuration hell for lots of things.
    - chlorion 4y ago
      Emacs is completely programmable so I don't think it needed to be invented for these specific use cases. The entire point is that you can program it to do what you want it to do! Emacs can certainly be a little clunky at times though which can put a lot of people off. It does take some configuration and tuning for your personal preferences to feel good, but the upside is that it can do way more than the alternatives can do if someone/yourself puts in the effort to implement it. Magit is a great example of such a thing, the interface and functionality is extremely nice, even compared to something like Intelli-j's git GUI which is a pretty impressive feat! With that being said it's not for everyone (and that's okay)!
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- caeril 4y ago
  >> when you have to do remote shell work > vscode is very good at this I'm sorry, but what? VSCode over ssh? Huh?
  - wdroz 4y ago
    VSCode remote ssh extension [0] allows you to develop remotely almost like locally. [0] -- https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh
- dmillar 4y ago
  It could be cleaner. My understanding is that you need different extension(s) to manipulate files requiring elevated access (e.g. sudo).

kamaal 4y ago

vscode is very good at this, and is the primary reason why I even use it. Frankly speaking the vim/emacs lines are yet to catch up with this sort of thinking. vscode feels like you are editing on the local machine. The experience is seamless and feels magical.

sceadu 4y ago
You can use tramp in emacs?
- monsieurbanana 4y ago
  I can't vouch too much for it as I've used it for maybe 1 hour tops, but the remote capabilities of vscode were pretty seamless for that one hour. Emacs+Tramp definitely does not feel like you're editing locally. A surprising amount of things work, but many others will fail in annoying ways or are just clearly not supported.
- kamaal 4y ago
  Tramp in all honesty was not that seamless, its just that these are great editors, but they were not invented in the context of the overall changes in how programming is done today. To me the biggest plus of emacs/vim is they make it easy to navigate and manipulate text, that's pretty much it. Every other feature seems to be an after thought therefore is not subject to the same experience the modern editors have. They also have a huge learning and set up time, and can send you down configuration hell for lots of things.
  - chlorion 4y ago
    Emacs is completely programmable so I don't think it needed to be invented for these specific use cases. The entire point is that you can program it to do what you want it to do! Emacs can certainly be a little clunky at times though which can put a lot of people off. It does take some configuration and tuning for your personal preferences to feel good, but the upside is that it can do way more than the alternatives can do if someone/yourself puts in the effort to implement it. Magit is a great example of such a thing, the interface and functionality is extremely nice, even compared to something like Intelli-j's git GUI which is a pretty impressive feat! With that being said it's not for everyone (and that's okay)!
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caeril 4y ago
>> when you have to do remote shell work > vscode is very good at this I'm sorry, but what? VSCode over ssh? Huh?
- wdroz 4y ago
  VSCode remote ssh extension [0] allows you to develop remotely almost like locally. [0] -- https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh
dmillar 4y ago
It could be cleaner. My understanding is that you need different extension(s) to manipulate files requiring elevated access (e.g. sudo).