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Strong feeling the WFH cull is starting and the economic downturn is a good excuse for them to clear house. They didn’t build all those huge HQs for them to si

Strong feeling the WFH cull is starting and the economic downturn is a good excuse for them to clear house. They didn’t build all those huge HQs for them to sit empty.

rajman187 4y ago
Huh, WFH cull? Zuck himself works from home (or his Hawaiian island compound) half the year now and the company expanded the WFH option to the majority of employees and may even consider shrinking offices (or certainly stopping real estate expansion) and adopting hot desk policies https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-remote-work-working-from-home-pandemic-hybrid-2021-6?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-rem... https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57425636.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57425636.amp https://seekingalpha.com/news/3888616-meta-platforms-working-to-shrink-offices-amid-ongoing-work-from-home-wsj https://seekingalpha.com/news/3888616-meta-platforms-working...
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Doesn’t seem like an effective management strategy ? Working from the Hawaiian compound…
  - threeseed 4y ago
    Many people have found themselves to be more productive working from home. Not sure why you think Zuckerberg would be any different.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >>Zuck himself works from home yes because it is unheard of that execs would do one thing for themselves and require something else for people that work for them.....
cmsonger 4y ago
Until Meta gives up on the Metaverse, I don't think we will see a cull that's WFH oriented. Surely if Meta can't find a way to work in the Metaverse, no one ever will. Now other big companies that continue to invest in HQs: I wonder.
- whywhywhywhy 4y ago
  I agree that would be smart but I actually don’t think Meta at the top understands that.
  - flippinburgers 4y ago
    Zuck himself has said in interviews how great it would be to have Meta transport people to business meetings in a way that feels more meaningful than the current Zoom experience.
  - cududa 4y ago
    What's mind-boggling to me is yesterday's report that not all the VR employees have VR headsets, and Mark is mandating weekly VR Horizon meetings for people in the org. This had to be know by everyone in the org, except for Mark, that they didn't have a policy to get the employees headsets, and everyone was too afraid to tell him. The dude is living in a bubble and his underlings are just telling him what he wants to hear. That's no way to build a product or team, when people are afraid to tell you anything negative
    - bretpiatt 4y ago
      In a leadership role it is very possible to know what's going on, observe, wait, and if it isn't getting to where you want it in the time you need it by, then you interviene. This happened with Facebook Android app years ago, nearly all mobile devs were in iOS and they were ordered to use Android phone until the app performed as well as the iOS version. Feels like deja vu VR edition.
manuelabeledo 4y ago
> They didn’t build all those huge HQs for them to sit empty. I don't think that creating fear and uncertainty will bring the ranks back to the offices.
- whywhywhywhy 4y ago
  What do you think would? The excuses for not are running out.
  - fullshark 4y ago
    Ordering them back to the office and accepting that x% will quit and possibly work for a competitor.
kamaal 4y ago
This. I have been downvoted several times for telling this. Remote work will be a net negative for tech people. Apart from the obvious productivity losses(lack of collaboration, and supervision), work is likely to move to places where salaries are lower, and they are likely to be big job cuts, as people realise get invisible and managements feels they don't need them.

Strong feeling the WFH cull is starting and the economic downturn is a good excuse for them to clear house. They didn’t build all those huge HQs for them to sit empty.

rajman187 4y ago

Huh, WFH cull? Zuck himself works from home (or his Hawaiian island compound) half the year now and the company expanded the WFH option to the majority of employees and may even consider shrinking offices (or certainly stopping real estate expansion) and adopting hot desk policies https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-remote-work-working-from-home-pandemic-hybrid-2021-6?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-rem... https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57425636.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57425636.amp https://seekingalpha.com/news/3888616-meta-platforms-working-to-shrink-offices-amid-ongoing-work-from-home-wsj https://seekingalpha.com/news/3888616-meta-platforms-working...

bamboozled 4y ago
Doesn’t seem like an effective management strategy ? Working from the Hawaiian compound…
- threeseed 4y ago
  Many people have found themselves to be more productive working from home. Not sure why you think Zuckerberg would be any different.
phpisthebest 4y ago
>>Zuck himself works from home yes because it is unheard of that execs would do one thing for themselves and require something else for people that work for them.....

cmsonger 4y ago

Until Meta gives up on the Metaverse, I don't think we will see a cull that's WFH oriented. Surely if Meta can't find a way to work in the Metaverse, no one ever will. Now other big companies that continue to invest in HQs: I wonder.

whywhywhywhy 4y ago
I agree that would be smart but I actually don’t think Meta at the top understands that.
- flippinburgers 4y ago
  Zuck himself has said in interviews how great it would be to have Meta transport people to business meetings in a way that feels more meaningful than the current Zoom experience.
- cududa 4y ago
  What's mind-boggling to me is yesterday's report that not all the VR employees have VR headsets, and Mark is mandating weekly VR Horizon meetings for people in the org. This had to be know by everyone in the org, except for Mark, that they didn't have a policy to get the employees headsets, and everyone was too afraid to tell him. The dude is living in a bubble and his underlings are just telling him what he wants to hear. That's no way to build a product or team, when people are afraid to tell you anything negative
  - bretpiatt 4y ago
    In a leadership role it is very possible to know what's going on, observe, wait, and if it isn't getting to where you want it in the time you need it by, then you interviene. This happened with Facebook Android app years ago, nearly all mobile devs were in iOS and they were ordered to use Android phone until the app performed as well as the iOS version. Feels like deja vu VR edition.

manuelabeledo 4y ago

> They didn’t build all those huge HQs for them to sit empty. I don't think that creating fear and uncertainty will bring the ranks back to the offices.

whywhywhywhy 4y ago
What do you think would? The excuses for not are running out.
- fullshark 4y ago
  Ordering them back to the office and accepting that x% will quit and possibly work for a competitor.

kamaal 4y ago

This. I have been downvoted several times for telling this. Remote work will be a net negative for tech people. Apart from the obvious productivity losses(lack of collaboration, and supervision), work is likely to move to places where salaries are lower, and they are likely to be big job cuts, as people realise get invisible and managements feels they don't need them.