>European cities also aren't that dense, generally speaking. Building high is an exception and only pushed recently, in places with infrastructure already prese

>European cities also aren't that dense, generally speaking. Building high is an exception and only pushed recently, in places with infrastructure already present. Buildings 5 stories high get similar or higher density than anything but the most extreme high rise neighbourhoods and are a better place to live. Easily get to 15k per km2 without highrises.