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Quite the opposite where I live. Many older developers are shortly before retiring and companies have difficulties to get and train successors. Those that are n

Quite the opposite where I live. Many older developers are shortly before retiring and companies have difficulties to get and train successors. Those that are not into development go into IT, which currently takes anyone. If you are a bum with a network cable, you will get hired. I just think that companies like Facebook are a special case. Here it can be very true, and Meta certainly might consolidate their product lineup. High stakes and generous compensation, but these developments can mean that your position gets cancelled. If it weren't for TikTok and some other competitors, they probably would have kept their jobs. But the market changes quickly. Facebook is now a network for parents and their children will look elsewhere naturally.

revolutukr 4y ago
Very interesting. In my retirement I've spent the past five years helping refugees get their foot in the door (mostly Syrian and Afghan students/recent grads, but about 20% have a lot of experience). This year has been brutal, we shut down in August because everything dried up. We worked mostly with lingering start-ups who failed to launch, mid-tier companies, and small companies. It all dried up, or the requirements shifted a tier (before mid-level was 3-5 years, now 5-7. Senior positions are basically looking for people with Principle / Staff engineering credentials). Of course, YMMV, we were navigating very specific situations which worked out well for people who are otherwise discriminated against / out of luck for finding work. Also, anecdotally, the salaries attached to the stream of recruiter spam I receive in my personal e-mail have plummeted. Maybe this is good, smaller companies will be able to hire more staff since salary expectations are lower?
- lazyasciiart 4y ago
  You get salaries in your recruiter spam? Amazing.
  - revolutukr 4y ago
KptMarchewa 4y ago
Where do you live? In Poland, developer after 40 or 50 is very rare - the market exploded in late 00s and 10s. That's very far from retirement and average age of developer is still in the 20s.
- jacooper 4y ago
  The US probably.

revolutukr 4y ago

Very interesting. In my retirement I've spent the past five years helping refugees get their foot in the door (mostly Syrian and Afghan students/recent grads, but about 20% have a lot of experience). This year has been brutal, we shut down in August because everything dried up. We worked mostly with lingering start-ups who failed to launch, mid-tier companies, and small companies. It all dried up, or the requirements shifted a tier (before mid-level was 3-5 years, now 5-7. Senior positions are basically looking for people with Principle / Staff engineering credentials). Of course, YMMV, we were navigating very specific situations which worked out well for people who are otherwise discriminated against / out of luck for finding work. Also, anecdotally, the salaries attached to the stream of recruiter spam I receive in my personal e-mail have plummeted. Maybe this is good, smaller companies will be able to hire more staff since salary expectations are lower?

lazyasciiart 4y ago
You get salaries in your recruiter spam? Amazing.
- revolutukr 4y ago

KptMarchewa 4y ago

Where do you live? In Poland, developer after 40 or 50 is very rare - the market exploded in late 00s and 10s. That's very far from retirement and average age of developer is still in the 20s.

jacooper 4y ago
The US probably.