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Unfortunately you don't need a citation or evidence to cry racism. A simple accusation is sufficient these days apparently...

anonyme-honteux 4y ago
Thanks for asking for evidence, you can start here. History of racism in the United States of America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States There are plenty of good books. You can start with the writings from Martin Luther King. He wrote ton of words in his life, not only the epic misleading "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" https://crossculturalsolidarity.com/mlk-speeches-sermons-essays/ https://crossculturalsolidarity.com/mlk-speeches-sermons-ess...
- shark_laser 4y ago
  Why is "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" misleading? It sounds pretty clear to me. He also said "Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." and "Be The Peace You Wish To See In The World!" and "I am convinced that men hate each other because they fear each other. They fear each other because they don’t know each other, and they don’t know each other because they don’t communicate with each other, and they don’t communicate with each other because they are separated from each other" The race debate (You're either with us or against us!) as it stands in the USA today would have MLK rolling in his grave.
  - anonyme-honteux 4y ago
    > Why is "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" misleading? It sounds pretty clear to me. It's 100% clear in the sense that it's the one quote that people who don't want to hear about racism love. And isn't it perfect that it comes from the most admired anti-racist in US history? It's perfect for that and that's why it's super widespread. It's also a complete travesty of Martin Luther King's thoughts to laser focus on this one quote. Martin Luther King was describing an ideal society in the far future that looks nothing like our messy present. Do you think Martin Luther King purpose in life is fairly summarized by "Hey we have talked too much about racism already" ? Why then did he bother to be so hated, to go in prison, march so many miles, ...? If that makes no sense it's because it does. Here is another Martin Luther King's quote > Our nation was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race. Even before there were large numbers of Negroes on our shores, the scar of racial hatred had already disfigured colonial society. From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles over racial supremacy. We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population. Moreover, we elevated that tragic experience into a noble crusade. Indeed, even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or to feel remorse for this shameful episode. Our literature, our films, our drama, our folklore all exalt it https://nativenewsonline.net/opinion/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-our-nation-was-born-in-genocide https://nativenewsonline.net/opinion/dr-martin-luther-king-j...
    - shark_laser 4y ago
      > It's also a complete travesty of Martin Luther King's thoughts to laser focus on this one quote. I didn't laser focus on this one quote, my previous reply includes several other quotes of his. Perhaps it is a complete travesty of his thoughts to ignore something he said in what is his most famous speech? > Martin Luther King was describing an ideal society in the far future that looks nothing like our messy present. Indeed, a future where his children "will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." But as I said in my previous reply, the race debate as it stands in our "messy present" does the opposite of this. > Do you think Martin Luther King purpose in life is fairly summarized by "Hey we have talked too much about racism already" ? Where did I say that? I'm talking to you about racism now. > "even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or to feel remorse for this shameful episode" Unfortunately MLK didn't live to see Obama become president, Michael Jordan dominate the NBA, or Lizzo playing James Madison's crystal flute. Another MLK quote from his book "Why We Can't Wait": > "Lamentably, it is a historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals." Note he says nothing about race here. This quote has more to do with "pretax and posttax income inequality" than race does. Reducing inequality to racism is naive at best.
      - anonyme-honteux 4y ago
        I see you argue in good faith, thanks for that. Martin Luther King didn't talk all his life about race because he wanted to but because he had to : it's the structural problem #1 of the USA. Obviously things are better than in his days, and in his days there were better than before the civil war. That doesn't mean there are right today. Again why the powerful hatred against Obamacare? It makes zero sense on economic grounds. Just before he was assassinated, Martin Luther King was leading the "Poor People's Campaign" As you can imagine it was not focused on race but on poverty. And people who love the skin of color quote usually don't want to talk about poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People%27s_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People%27s_Campaign

anonyme-honteux 4y ago

Thanks for asking for evidence, you can start here. History of racism in the United States of America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States There are plenty of good books. You can start with the writings from Martin Luther King. He wrote ton of words in his life, not only the epic misleading "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" https://crossculturalsolidarity.com/mlk-speeches-sermons-essays/ https://crossculturalsolidarity.com/mlk-speeches-sermons-ess...

shark_laser 4y ago
Why is "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" misleading? It sounds pretty clear to me. He also said "Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." and "Be The Peace You Wish To See In The World!" and "I am convinced that men hate each other because they fear each other. They fear each other because they don’t know each other, and they don’t know each other because they don’t communicate with each other, and they don’t communicate with each other because they are separated from each other" The race debate (You're either with us or against us!) as it stands in the USA today would have MLK rolling in his grave.
- anonyme-honteux 4y ago
  > Why is "judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" misleading? It sounds pretty clear to me. It's 100% clear in the sense that it's the one quote that people who don't want to hear about racism love. And isn't it perfect that it comes from the most admired anti-racist in US history? It's perfect for that and that's why it's super widespread. It's also a complete travesty of Martin Luther King's thoughts to laser focus on this one quote. Martin Luther King was describing an ideal society in the far future that looks nothing like our messy present. Do you think Martin Luther King purpose in life is fairly summarized by "Hey we have talked too much about racism already" ? Why then did he bother to be so hated, to go in prison, march so many miles, ...? If that makes no sense it's because it does. Here is another Martin Luther King's quote > Our nation was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race. Even before there were large numbers of Negroes on our shores, the scar of racial hatred had already disfigured colonial society. From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles over racial supremacy. We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population. Moreover, we elevated that tragic experience into a noble crusade. Indeed, even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or to feel remorse for this shameful episode. Our literature, our films, our drama, our folklore all exalt it https://nativenewsonline.net/opinion/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-our-nation-was-born-in-genocide https://nativenewsonline.net/opinion/dr-martin-luther-king-j...
  - shark_laser 4y ago
    > It's also a complete travesty of Martin Luther King's thoughts to laser focus on this one quote. I didn't laser focus on this one quote, my previous reply includes several other quotes of his. Perhaps it is a complete travesty of his thoughts to ignore something he said in what is his most famous speech? > Martin Luther King was describing an ideal society in the far future that looks nothing like our messy present. Indeed, a future where his children "will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." But as I said in my previous reply, the race debate as it stands in our "messy present" does the opposite of this. > Do you think Martin Luther King purpose in life is fairly summarized by "Hey we have talked too much about racism already" ? Where did I say that? I'm talking to you about racism now. > "even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or to feel remorse for this shameful episode" Unfortunately MLK didn't live to see Obama become president, Michael Jordan dominate the NBA, or Lizzo playing James Madison's crystal flute. Another MLK quote from his book "Why We Can't Wait": > "Lamentably, it is a historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals." Note he says nothing about race here. This quote has more to do with "pretax and posttax income inequality" than race does. Reducing inequality to racism is naive at best.
    - anonyme-honteux 4y ago
      I see you argue in good faith, thanks for that. Martin Luther King didn't talk all his life about race because he wanted to but because he had to : it's the structural problem #1 of the USA. Obviously things are better than in his days, and in his days there were better than before the civil war. That doesn't mean there are right today. Again why the powerful hatred against Obamacare? It makes zero sense on economic grounds. Just before he was assassinated, Martin Luther King was leading the "Poor People's Campaign" As you can imagine it was not focused on race but on poverty. And people who love the skin of color quote usually don't want to talk about poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People%27s_Campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People%27s_Campaign