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This makes me angry. How did this man get to his current position? I can't possibly understand how he did not know any of the math questions. I'm sure even I

by dos1 15y ago

This makes me angry. How did this man get to his current position? I can't possibly understand how he did not know any of the math questions. I'm sure even I would have forgotten some of the trig, but to not know ANY? But I hear people saying, "his job didn't require much in the way of math." Granted, but I'm sure his job requires lots of reading, and he got a 62%? The real tragedy is that this man was able to rise as high as he did, and our current system supports it.

Newgy 15y ago
The man is most likely an incompetent bureaucrat, rewarded by a unionized education system that values seniority and paper degrees.
- alec 15y ago
  It says in the second paragraph he's an elected official.
  - stickfigure 15y ago
    Is that better or worse?
  - dhugiaskmak 15y ago
    I believe that sentence was in reference to his school board elections. Later in the article he says "I help oversee an organization with 22,000 employees and a $3 billion operations and capital budget, and am able to make sense of complex data related to those responsibilities."
    - davidhansen 15y ago
      Which is quite meaningless. Organizations of that size will have at least a few data analysts, data mining specialists either in-house or on contract, and tons of tools created to help C-level management understand the complex data the organization generates. My cursory understanding of this man's profession is to make friends, maintain relationships, and occasionally "understand" the pretty charts that the data analysts produce for him. It's no wonder he doesn't need much in the way of intellectual horsepower to execute his responsibilities.
      - jbooth 15y ago
        Obviously they should fire him and hire you. Life lesson: If it sounds too easy for the money he's making, it's probably not.
    - noonespecial 15y ago
      Would a guy like that even know how many zeros come after the 3 in $3 billion?
      - nekojima 15y ago
        Depends how its written. In your example, the answer would be there are no zeros after the 3. ;-)
        daemin 15y ago
        Also depends which version of "billion" you're using, it could be either: 1,000,000,000 (short version) or 1,000,000,000,000 (long version). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion edit: add link & proper version titles.
        noonespecial 15y ago
        In dollars, its almost universally assumed billion is "short billion". (Although, occasionally you still hear people saying it) It would be a fabulous retort if you were this fellow and you actually did happen to know. "Short or long" would be almost as good a come-back as "African or European" when asked about unladen swallows.
dgabriel 15y ago
How many kids have mastered trig in the 10th grade? The standard math track is two years of algebra, a year of geometry, then trig (as far as I remember), and the more advanced track has you starting, but not completing, trig in the 10th grade, then moving on to calc. My guess is that the test had a lot of algebra 2 material, which requires some memorization of formulas. It's not hard math, it's just sort of plug and play, but it's hard to remember what to plug the numbers into if you haven't had a recent refresher, or you're not teaching it. As far as getting a 62% on the reading portion, well that's just pathetic.
- sethg 15y ago
  As far as getting a 62% on the reading portion, well that's just pathetic. For all we know, the reading test was either testing for a different kind of plug-and-play (“the author of the above paragraph is using (a) apostrophe; (b) synechdoche; (c) both; (d) neither”) or is testing mastery of a certain kind of teaching-to-the-test in the guise of “reading comprehension”.
Confusion 15y ago
Do you even know what the questions were? If not: how do you know you would have done better?
giardini 15y ago
Surely by now you've heard the aphorism "It's who you know and who you blow"? You can't possibly be implying that most people are in their current jobs because of skill or training?! Bwaahaaahaaahaaah! Such naivete! Where have you been hiding?
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by dos1 15y ago

Newgy 15y ago

The man is most likely an incompetent bureaucrat, rewarded by a unionized education system that values seniority and paper degrees.

alec 15y ago
It says in the second paragraph he's an elected official.
- stickfigure 15y ago
  Is that better or worse?
- dhugiaskmak 15y ago
  I believe that sentence was in reference to his school board elections. Later in the article he says "I help oversee an organization with 22,000 employees and a $3 billion operations and capital budget, and am able to make sense of complex data related to those responsibilities."
  - davidhansen 15y ago
    Which is quite meaningless. Organizations of that size will have at least a few data analysts, data mining specialists either in-house or on contract, and tons of tools created to help C-level management understand the complex data the organization generates. My cursory understanding of this man's profession is to make friends, maintain relationships, and occasionally "understand" the pretty charts that the data analysts produce for him. It's no wonder he doesn't need much in the way of intellectual horsepower to execute his responsibilities.
    - jbooth 15y ago
      Obviously they should fire him and hire you. Life lesson: If it sounds too easy for the money he's making, it's probably not.
  - noonespecial 15y ago
    Would a guy like that even know how many zeros come after the 3 in $3 billion?
    - nekojima 15y ago
      Depends how its written. In your example, the answer would be there are no zeros after the 3. ;-)
      - daemin 15y ago
        Also depends which version of "billion" you're using, it could be either: 1,000,000,000 (short version) or 1,000,000,000,000 (long version). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion edit: add link & proper version titles.
        noonespecial 15y ago
        In dollars, its almost universally assumed billion is "short billion". (Although, occasionally you still hear people saying it) It would be a fabulous retort if you were this fellow and you actually did happen to know. "Short or long" would be almost as good a come-back as "African or European" when asked about unladen swallows.

dgabriel 15y ago

How many kids have mastered trig in the 10th grade? The standard math track is two years of algebra, a year of geometry, then trig (as far as I remember), and the more advanced track has you starting, but not completing, trig in the 10th grade, then moving on to calc. My guess is that the test had a lot of algebra 2 material, which requires some memorization of formulas. It's not hard math, it's just sort of plug and play, but it's hard to remember what to plug the numbers into if you haven't had a recent refresher, or you're not teaching it. As far as getting a 62% on the reading portion, well that's just pathetic.

sethg 15y ago
As far as getting a 62% on the reading portion, well that's just pathetic. For all we know, the reading test was either testing for a different kind of plug-and-play (“the author of the above paragraph is using (a) apostrophe; (b) synechdoche; (c) both; (d) neither”) or is testing mastery of a certain kind of teaching-to-the-test in the guise of “reading comprehension”.

Confusion 15y ago

Do you even know what the questions were? If not: how do you know you would have done better?

giardini 15y ago

Surely by now you've heard the aphorism "It's who you know and who you blow"? You can't possibly be implying that most people are in their current jobs because of skill or training?! Bwaahaaahaaahaaah! Such naivete! Where have you been hiding?

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