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> IPFS is just a joke Care to explain why? I only know the basic idea of IPFS and sounded great to me and something I was looking forward to get stable and wid

> IPFS is just a joke Care to explain why? I only know the basic idea of IPFS and sounded great to me and something I was looking forward to get stable and widely adopted. In which way is it a joke?

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
I think the biggest complaint is performance, which is reported by some users to be amazingly poor (to the point that such a user would call the whole thing a joke on that account). YMMV.
- threeseed 4y ago
  That's because everyone has forgotten the lessons from BitTorrent and the internet. If you want something to be fast then your content needs to be hosted on servers with fast connectivity to other servers. And that's not possible when at the same time you're trying to avoid legal jurisdictions that will censor e.g. EU, US, CN etc.
  - trasz 4y ago
    If you want something to be fast you need it stored locally. Storage used to be big and expensive, thus the cloud. And network used to be slow and expensive too, so the uplink direction wasn’t very effective unless there was a company behind it. Which is to say - the main technical problems that hampered BitTorrent probably aren’t there anymore.
Yizahi 4y ago
It is bad for universally legal uses (sharing, mirroring) because centralised alternatives are always faster and cheaper (benefiting from economies of scale). It is also probably (I'm not quite sure yet) worse for the illegal uses because it is slower and more compute heavy than torrents, and there is way worse discoverability and moderation, which is important in the communities sharing illegal files. Basically any true decentralisation is an attempt to eliminate trust from the system. And there are two problems with this - 1) maybe 0.1% of all attempts are actually decentralised (other 99.9% are either self delusional or lying), and 2) trust is actually a desirable thing, especially in the important things like money or file storage.

> IPFS is just a joke Care to explain why? I only know the basic idea of IPFS and sounded great to me and something I was looking forward to get stable and widely adopted. In which way is it a joke?

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

I think the biggest complaint is performance, which is reported by some users to be amazingly poor (to the point that such a user would call the whole thing a joke on that account). YMMV.

threeseed 4y ago
That's because everyone has forgotten the lessons from BitTorrent and the internet. If you want something to be fast then your content needs to be hosted on servers with fast connectivity to other servers. And that's not possible when at the same time you're trying to avoid legal jurisdictions that will censor e.g. EU, US, CN etc.
- trasz 4y ago
  If you want something to be fast you need it stored locally. Storage used to be big and expensive, thus the cloud. And network used to be slow and expensive too, so the uplink direction wasn’t very effective unless there was a company behind it. Which is to say - the main technical problems that hampered BitTorrent probably aren’t there anymore.

Yizahi 4y ago

It is bad for universally legal uses (sharing, mirroring) because centralised alternatives are always faster and cheaper (benefiting from economies of scale). It is also probably (I'm not quite sure yet) worse for the illegal uses because it is slower and more compute heavy than torrents, and there is way worse discoverability and moderation, which is important in the communities sharing illegal files. Basically any true decentralisation is an attempt to eliminate trust from the system. And there are two problems with this - 1) maybe 0.1% of all attempts are actually decentralised (other 99.9% are either self delusional or lying), and 2) trust is actually a desirable thing, especially in the important things like money or file storage.