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I have the opposite. Panning shots at low frame rate look odd and make my head hurt, especially with 3:2 pull-down. The first time I saw a film at 48 fps it fi

I have the opposite. Panning shots at low frame rate look odd and make my head hurt, especially with 3:2 pull-down. The first time I saw a film at 48 fps it finally felt so natural and immersive.

cameronh90 4y ago
I know what you mean about the panning. If you've never looked into it, film shutter angles are an interesting topic. Conventionally, the shutter is open for 50% of the frame. At 24fps, that does create a noticeable judder, but also makes movement less blurry. You can reduce or increase the angle, but it's a trade-off either way at 24fps. 48+fps makes motion both a lot smoother and less blurry, however for me, it makes their costumes look a lot more like... costumes. For example when I watched The Hobbit in 48fps, it felt more like a LOTR themed fancy dress party than a film. I suspect, in time, most people will get used to high frame rates as it becomes more common and learn to suspend disbelief the same way they do at low frame rates. Objectively, it looks fantastic.
- wpietri 4y ago
  > felt more like a LOTR themed fancy dress party than a film Ooh, I experience this too. Great way to put it.
- wruza 4y ago
  Would be nice to have variable frame rate, so both panning and action could look good. Shoot everything in 120fps (divisible by 24, 30, 60) and simply skip frames when appropriate.
  - hackeraccount 4y ago
    This is the correct answer.
- dontlaugh 4y ago
  I realise I'm in the minority, but I had the opposite reaction watching The Hobbit in 48fps. It looked no more like a set with costumes than other films do, but I was no longer unpleasantly distracted by any fast movement or panning. As far as I'm concerned, everything should be shot and delivered at 120.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
Hopefully higher frame rates become common with IMAX movies. The content matter is usually stunning but panning shots can be very jerky on such large screens, especially at the edges.
assttoasstmgr 4y ago
The opening of Apocalypse Now would look like dog shit at > 24fps. For a good comparison, watch the few Twilight Zone episodes (the original from the 60s) from season 2 that were shot on videotape, as opposed to film for the rest of the series. They look downright weird.

I have the opposite. Panning shots at low frame rate look odd and make my head hurt, especially with 3:2 pull-down. The first time I saw a film at 48 fps it finally felt so natural and immersive.

cameronh90 4y ago

I know what you mean about the panning. If you've never looked into it, film shutter angles are an interesting topic. Conventionally, the shutter is open for 50% of the frame. At 24fps, that does create a noticeable judder, but also makes movement less blurry. You can reduce or increase the angle, but it's a trade-off either way at 24fps. 48+fps makes motion both a lot smoother and less blurry, however for me, it makes their costumes look a lot more like... costumes. For example when I watched The Hobbit in 48fps, it felt more like a LOTR themed fancy dress party than a film. I suspect, in time, most people will get used to high frame rates as it becomes more common and learn to suspend disbelief the same way they do at low frame rates. Objectively, it looks fantastic.

wpietri 4y ago
> felt more like a LOTR themed fancy dress party than a film Ooh, I experience this too. Great way to put it.
wruza 4y ago
Would be nice to have variable frame rate, so both panning and action could look good. Shoot everything in 120fps (divisible by 24, 30, 60) and simply skip frames when appropriate.
- hackeraccount 4y ago
  This is the correct answer.
dontlaugh 4y ago
I realise I'm in the minority, but I had the opposite reaction watching The Hobbit in 48fps. It looked no more like a set with costumes than other films do, but I was no longer unpleasantly distracted by any fast movement or panning. As far as I'm concerned, everything should be shot and delivered at 120.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

Hopefully higher frame rates become common with IMAX movies. The content matter is usually stunning but panning shots can be very jerky on such large screens, especially at the edges.

assttoasstmgr 4y ago

The opening of Apocalypse Now would look like dog shit at > 24fps. For a good comparison, watch the few Twilight Zone episodes (the original from the 60s) from season 2 that were shot on videotape, as opposed to film for the rest of the series. They look downright weird.