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> You order highly lethal lab chemicals from a one click consumer products site Yes, I do. You do too. Your medicine cabinet and cleaning supplies are full of

> You order highly lethal lab chemicals from a one click consumer products site Yes, I do. You do too. Your medicine cabinet and cleaning supplies are full of lethal “lab chemicals” that would kill if ingested, or ingested in even mild excess. But this isn’t even a “highly lethal lab chemical”, it’s just sodium nitrate; mined straight from the earth, and has been used as a food preservative for at least a couple centuries. > … you use to restock your kitchen It’s none of your business what we buy these things for, whether it’s to stock our kitchen for meat preservation, or backyard science experiments with our kids. > The freedom argument is specious we don’t regulate commerce with corporate freedom as an overriding value. The freedom you’re attacking out of emotional panic isn’t Amazon’s. They can comply with whatever arbitrary nonsensical “save the children” crap you invent, and compliance will cost a microscopic percentage of their overall revenue. The freedom you’re attacking is mine, and everyone else’s. Take responsibility for yourself and your own children. If you can’t do that, blame yourself, not me.

CPLX 4y ago
You want to be free to see a handbook with suicide instructions next to the pure sodium nitrite you order? That’s the freedom you are personally advocating for? You’re not seeing anything about this turn of events that could be improved upon? Do you also want to be free to buy baby formula and not be sure what’s in it, or a car where the seatbelts fail if you weigh over 150lbs? Do you want freedom to see pornographic billboards near the playground? These things aren’t freedom by any recognizable definition. They’re just defective products made by unaccountable corporations. Like Amazon’s recommendation engine in this case. The idea that corporations should just be able to do whatever they want is so fucking toxic. Seeing this attitude pervasive here on the discussion board of the private equity firm that’s advised so much of our modern tech culture sure does explain a lot though.
- catiopatio 4y ago
  > You want to be free to see a handbook with suicide instructions next to the pure sodium nitrite you order? That’s the freedom you are personally advocating for? I want to be free to order goods without having to upload government-issued ID or otherwise jump through hoops to assuage your panic. I also want to be free to see a suicide book next to a sodium nitrate purchase without an emotionally panicked busy-body deciding that we have to save the children by infringing on the latter freedom. > Do you also want to be free to buy baby formula and not be sure what’s in it, or a car where the seatbelts fail if you weigh over 150lbs? Do you want freedom to see pornographic billboards near the playground? You’re conflating a lot of very different issues here. Can you actually explain how these are related? > The idea that corporations should just be able to do whatever they want is so fucking toxic. Nobody is advocating that here, that I can tell. Furthermore, far more toxicity arises out of nanny-scolds advocating for ever-increasing regulation so that nobody will ever feel unsafe again. If you want to look for the source of policies that stifle children, replace their healthy childhood experiences with institutionalized suffocation, and as a result, have created the most mentally unwell generation (literally) ever — try a mirror.

CPLX 4y ago

You want to be free to see a handbook with suicide instructions next to the pure sodium nitrite you order? That’s the freedom you are personally advocating for? You’re not seeing anything about this turn of events that could be improved upon? Do you also want to be free to buy baby formula and not be sure what’s in it, or a car where the seatbelts fail if you weigh over 150lbs? Do you want freedom to see pornographic billboards near the playground? These things aren’t freedom by any recognizable definition. They’re just defective products made by unaccountable corporations. Like Amazon’s recommendation engine in this case. The idea that corporations should just be able to do whatever they want is so fucking toxic. Seeing this attitude pervasive here on the discussion board of the private equity firm that’s advised so much of our modern tech culture sure does explain a lot though.

catiopatio 4y ago
> You want to be free to see a handbook with suicide instructions next to the pure sodium nitrite you order? That’s the freedom you are personally advocating for? I want to be free to order goods without having to upload government-issued ID or otherwise jump through hoops to assuage your panic. I also want to be free to see a suicide book next to a sodium nitrate purchase without an emotionally panicked busy-body deciding that we have to save the children by infringing on the latter freedom. > Do you also want to be free to buy baby formula and not be sure what’s in it, or a car where the seatbelts fail if you weigh over 150lbs? Do you want freedom to see pornographic billboards near the playground? You’re conflating a lot of very different issues here. Can you actually explain how these are related? > The idea that corporations should just be able to do whatever they want is so fucking toxic. Nobody is advocating that here, that I can tell. Furthermore, far more toxicity arises out of nanny-scolds advocating for ever-increasing regulation so that nobody will ever feel unsafe again. If you want to look for the source of policies that stifle children, replace their healthy childhood experiences with institutionalized suffocation, and as a result, have created the most mentally unwell generation (literally) ever — try a mirror.