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there's a subtle difference between saying what you want and publishing what you want on a global platform that potentially can show it to billions of people.

there's a subtle difference between saying what you want and publishing what you want on a global platform that potentially can show it to billions of people. Say it in a bar with your friends if you wanna make a stance or a joke, avoid global social networks. Maybe UK is simply showing its true face, but exposing in public your ingenuity has never ended well. There's a reason why McDonalds writes "Caution: Contents Hot" on their hot beverages. Long story short: if you know sth can happen, you should try to prevent it, or you'll be considered part of the problem, even if only partially, the consequences could be bad. EDIT: as explained here[1], the true story is a story of underestimating the risks. Free speech on social private networks is not the same thing as free speech in person and it's absolutely not risk free. People know that, but keep thinking "it won't happen to me" despite the fact TOS say very clearly what can and cannot be said and that a big "report" button is there for anyone to use. nobody has ever been arrested for saying horrible things at the pub with their friends. Nobody would have ever said the same things on national TV. But suddenly we started thinking social networks are like the pub while they are more ubiquitous than the TV. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33145066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33145066

ummonk 4y ago
McDonalds caused a woman severe skin burns by providing dangerously hot coffee to try to keep customers from immediately drinking it and getting refills.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  That's not the reason why. The woman was deemed partially responsible for the burns, because she was, the real reason is that McDonalds knew that people burnt themselves before, but did nothing to inform to customers of the risks. People know that stunts on social networks have been punished, but keep making them anyway. Which is not exactly a smart move and doesn't limit anyone's free speech, I am still free to say the same things, just not in front of a WorldWide audience. Social networks will report immediately any "not conforming" opinion to avoid being the next McDonalds, but on a global scale (billions in fines instead of the 640k dollars MD paid) https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/mcdonalds-hot-coffee-lawsuit/ https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/mcdonalds-hot-coffee-...
  - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
    Putting up a sign would not have saved them from that lawsuit, at the temperature they kept it 3rd degree burns can be caused within 3 seconds of contact.
    - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
      > Putting up a sign would not have saved them from that lawsuit, at the temperature they kept it 3rd degree burns can be caused within 3 seconds of contact. It would have prevented Stella Liebeck from even starting a lawsuit. McDonalds coffee temperature is the same that it's commonly used for hot tea in England (on the lower side, to be precise) The water temperature for black tea should be 90 to 98 C and for green tea around 80 C. It's all about not warning customers of the risks involved in managing hot beverages (in England they are probably asking how is it possible that adult people can't handle hot water, but that's another story, for another time)
      - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
        None of that is actually true.
        peoplefromibiza 4y ago
        explain. please.
      - ummonk 4y ago
        The temperature that coffee should be served at has nothing to do with the temperature that hot tea should be made at. Additionally, at the time that the woman got burnt, McDonalds was serving the coffee significantly hotter than they do today.
        peoplefromibiza 4y ago
        > The temperature that coffee should be served at there is no such thing as "temperature the coffee should be served at" hot tea is still served at an higher temperatures than coffee your missing the point: don't use social networks as they ate are a private space, they are not and they even warned you about it.

ummonk 4y ago

McDonalds caused a woman severe skin burns by providing dangerously hot coffee to try to keep customers from immediately drinking it and getting refills.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
That's not the reason why. The woman was deemed partially responsible for the burns, because she was, the real reason is that McDonalds knew that people burnt themselves before, but did nothing to inform to customers of the risks. People know that stunts on social networks have been punished, but keep making them anyway. Which is not exactly a smart move and doesn't limit anyone's free speech, I am still free to say the same things, just not in front of a WorldWide audience. Social networks will report immediately any "not conforming" opinion to avoid being the next McDonalds, but on a global scale (billions in fines instead of the 640k dollars MD paid) https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/mcdonalds-hot-coffee-lawsuit/ https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/mcdonalds-hot-coffee-...
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  Putting up a sign would not have saved them from that lawsuit, at the temperature they kept it 3rd degree burns can be caused within 3 seconds of contact.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > Putting up a sign would not have saved them from that lawsuit, at the temperature they kept it 3rd degree burns can be caused within 3 seconds of contact. It would have prevented Stella Liebeck from even starting a lawsuit. McDonalds coffee temperature is the same that it's commonly used for hot tea in England (on the lower side, to be precise) The water temperature for black tea should be 90 to 98 C and for green tea around 80 C. It's all about not warning customers of the risks involved in managing hot beverages (in England they are probably asking how is it possible that adult people can't handle hot water, but that's another story, for another time)
    - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
      None of that is actually true.
      - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
        explain. please.
    - ummonk 4y ago
      The temperature that coffee should be served at has nothing to do with the temperature that hot tea should be made at. Additionally, at the time that the woman got burnt, McDonalds was serving the coffee significantly hotter than they do today.
      - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
        > The temperature that coffee should be served at there is no such thing as "temperature the coffee should be served at" hot tea is still served at an higher temperatures than coffee your missing the point: don't use social networks as they ate are a private space, they are not and they even warned you about it.