> we're talking about "how to make really good passwords". I feel like this has been answered But that's not what we're talking about. As you say, that's been

> we're talking about "how to make really good passwords". I feel like this has been answered But that's not what we're talking about. As you say, that's been answered. But in the real world the answer doesn't work well, and whether or not it's a service problem it's a real problem.