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what I meant is that if you leave the tv on a different input than the one that has the built-in media player, does the tv can still show you ads and track you

what I meant is that if you leave the tv on a different input than the one that has the built-in media player, does the tv can still show you ads and track you ? Is it impossible now to completely avoid the built-in OS ?

egberts1 4y ago
If you plug the Smart TV to the Internet, the TV will dastardly display ads, sometimes over HDMI, sometimes over composite video, and mostly through the TV apps. Keeping the Internet away from the TV and you should be entirely just fine and ad-free.
- nightshift1 4y ago
  wow, even over hdmi...that's messed up. Thanks
- WantonQuantum 4y ago
  You're saying that some TVs will display ads when, for example, I'm using my Switch connected to an HDMI port? What kind of dystopia is this? Do you have an example of this happening?
  - tuatoru 4y ago
    > What kind of dystopia is this? I've been asking myself that question for quite a while, now. It's got totalitarian states, theocracies, personality cults, total surveillance, random ostracism, flying killer robots, increasingly unstable weather, increasingly unstable economies, the return of the nuclear threat, bitter internal political divisions, and probably more. An "all of the above" dystopia?
  - fragmede 4y ago
    https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/home-and-office/home-entertainment/i-spent-3000-on-a-samsung-smart-tv-and-all-i-got-were-ads-and-unwanted-content/ https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/home-and-office/home-entert...
    - nightshift1 4y ago
      In this article, the author is complaining about ads inside the tv's interface and at the end he says that he will continue to use his Apple tv instead. I don't think it means that the tv is showing ads over his Apple tv signal.
  - waste_monk 4y ago
    Not an exact fit but this sort of thing does happen https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/samsung-smart-tvs-forcing-ads-into-video-streaming-apps/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/samsung-smart-t... . Basically any ad-tech nightmare you can think of already exists... targeted advertising, telemetry reporting, replacing ads in content with different ones, etc... Currently smart TV's rely on home internet connectivity, but the current big fear is that they will start using things like Amazon Sidewalk or other 3rd party WiFi providers automatically, or even have manufacturers start embedding 4G LTE or 5G connectivity into the TV's itself so you can't isolate them without taking the thing apart and cutting out the antenna (and hoping there isn't a kill-switch if it can't call home). This has been going on for a long time - part of the reason "dumb" monitors such as digital signage displays are so much more expensive than smart TV's is that they aren't subsidised by ads and telemetry.

egberts1 4y ago

If you plug the Smart TV to the Internet, the TV will dastardly display ads, sometimes over HDMI, sometimes over composite video, and mostly through the TV apps. Keeping the Internet away from the TV and you should be entirely just fine and ad-free.

nightshift1 4y ago
wow, even over hdmi...that's messed up. Thanks
WantonQuantum 4y ago
You're saying that some TVs will display ads when, for example, I'm using my Switch connected to an HDMI port? What kind of dystopia is this? Do you have an example of this happening?
- tuatoru 4y ago
  > What kind of dystopia is this? I've been asking myself that question for quite a while, now. It's got totalitarian states, theocracies, personality cults, total surveillance, random ostracism, flying killer robots, increasingly unstable weather, increasingly unstable economies, the return of the nuclear threat, bitter internal political divisions, and probably more. An "all of the above" dystopia?
- fragmede 4y ago
  https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/home-and-office/home-entertainment/i-spent-3000-on-a-samsung-smart-tv-and-all-i-got-were-ads-and-unwanted-content/ https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/home-and-office/home-entert...
  - nightshift1 4y ago
    In this article, the author is complaining about ads inside the tv's interface and at the end he says that he will continue to use his Apple tv instead. I don't think it means that the tv is showing ads over his Apple tv signal.
- waste_monk 4y ago
  Not an exact fit but this sort of thing does happen https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/samsung-smart-tvs-forcing-ads-into-video-streaming-apps/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/samsung-smart-t... . Basically any ad-tech nightmare you can think of already exists... targeted advertising, telemetry reporting, replacing ads in content with different ones, etc... Currently smart TV's rely on home internet connectivity, but the current big fear is that they will start using things like Amazon Sidewalk or other 3rd party WiFi providers automatically, or even have manufacturers start embedding 4G LTE or 5G connectivity into the TV's itself so you can't isolate them without taking the thing apart and cutting out the antenna (and hoping there isn't a kill-switch if it can't call home). This has been going on for a long time - part of the reason "dumb" monitors such as digital signage displays are so much more expensive than smart TV's is that they aren't subsidised by ads and telemetry.