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> I would prefer they send me a bill directly for fire services monthly The problem is that then some people opt out. If enough people do that, it's no longer

> I would prefer they send me a bill directly for fire services monthly The problem is that then some people opt out. If enough people do that, it's no longer financially viable to have a fire service. > I absolutely reject the idea of a "social contract" Which is fine, but then don't live in the society. As a society, we have decided what is important for the benefit of the society; fire departments, law enforcement, schools, roads, etc. We then attempt to gather money from everyone in that society to pay for those things, because that's the only way it's realistic. Not everyone in the society agrees to all the details, but (in theory) the majority of people agree to them. It's not all that different than living in an apartment with a few other people. If most of the people agree that everyone has to split the electricity bill, but one person says they don't want to... then it's reasonable to have that person leave, and replace them with someone that is ok with the rules set by the group.

phpisthebest 4y ago
>>The problem is that then some people opt out. If enough people do that, it's no longer financially viable to have a fire service. Aside from the fact that since most homes are covered by a mortgage and mortgage companies would require that as a condition of a loan, no where did I really say to make it optional. I simply said I wanted an itmized bill for the service I am required to have water service turned on as part of occupancy, I can not turn off the water service to home even if I wanted to live completely on bottled water, it would be against local ordinances. I am required to pay that bill monthly, if I turn it off I would get fined by the city, and at some point they would take my home I am also required to mow my grass, and other such things, I fail to see why fire services would be any different. >It's not all that different than living in an apartment with a few other people. You are correct on that front, I despise apartment living and I also despise HOA which is why I took great care to avoid both in my life. If star link or a competitor proves to be very successful and gets to be cost effective then Rural living may even be in the cards for me, one the only reasons I moved to where I did was because of the availability of high speed fiber optic service.

phpisthebest 4y ago

>>The problem is that then some people opt out. If enough people do that, it's no longer financially viable to have a fire service. Aside from the fact that since most homes are covered by a mortgage and mortgage companies would require that as a condition of a loan, no where did I really say to make it optional. I simply said I wanted an itmized bill for the service I am required to have water service turned on as part of occupancy, I can not turn off the water service to home even if I wanted to live completely on bottled water, it would be against local ordinances. I am required to pay that bill monthly, if I turn it off I would get fined by the city, and at some point they would take my home I am also required to mow my grass, and other such things, I fail to see why fire services would be any different. >It's not all that different than living in an apartment with a few other people. You are correct on that front, I despise apartment living and I also despise HOA which is why I took great care to avoid both in my life. If star link or a competitor proves to be very successful and gets to be cost effective then Rural living may even be in the cards for me, one the only reasons I moved to where I did was because of the availability of high speed fiber optic service.