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I read the article. It tries to give a balanced view of both the good and the bad, including details, but if your read the article closely, it doesn't say exact
by stryker7001 4y ago
I read the article. It tries to give a balanced view of both the good and the bad, including details, but if your read the article closely, it doesn't say exactly what the union is trying to do.
Also read the 2 links provided above, because I was interested. On the second page 'what will the union do" the answer is 'its up to us', so I tend to agree, it's not clear what they are asking for yet.
- jmpman 4y ago[flagged]
- acr25 4y agoThat reply is garbage (deliberately?) The union is trying to do good for employees. In a better climate, Starbucks would be working with its unions to make sure that things for ALL employees are better.
- junofan 4y agoCoffee shops are extremely cheap to start up. Why can’t union organizers start better coffee shops?
- jmpman 4y agoStarbucks is not a coal mine. They’re located on street corners with other restaurants, and the employees can freely move from one unskilled role to the next. Unionization exists solely to extract additional wages that wouldn’t have been given willingly. They’re effectively extorting Starbucks. Same as any con trying to extort protection money from a shop.
- klyrs 4y agoSo if you say to your employer "oh hey I've found a new job that's offering me $20k more than I'm making right now" and offer them a chance to match that offer, is that also extortion in your mind?
- jmpman 4y agoNo, but if you say, hey, we’re all going to burn down the store if you down pay us $20k more… that’s more like what a union is threatening. There’s practically no limit on what a union can extort from a company. If a company invests in capital to make its employees more efficient (faster coffee grinders - if we’re keeping with the Starbucks theme), then the union can demand that savings in their wages. Unionization makes it less likely for businesses to make these capital investments. My theory is that’s why almost no airlines have ever been profitable. All the gains in cost/passenger seat mile gets taken by the pilot unions.
- MuffinFlavored 4y agoWould you agree with the comment you are replying to that on average, Starbucks is a place of "unsafe" working conditions?