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Elons wealth is liquid and he leverages SpaceX's image to drive public Tesla investment. When you invest, you invest in "Elon".

by kidme5 4y ago

AtlasBarfed 4y ago
This is a hilarious characterization given his companies actually manufacture physical goods and capabilities, revolutionary ones at that, while most of the people here work at funny money companies moving bits around to achieve unicorn valuation via hype and "exit". And even more hilarious that this comment is a garden variety take from armies of anti-Elon posters that are astroturfers. The word "Elon" is an internet lobbying battleground (and there are likely armies of pro-Elon roboposters). Armies driven by, at least initially, by funny money hedge fund bets. Bets that would have come true about 5 years ago if Tesla/SpaceX were pure hype/bullshit. SpaceX/Tesla are tremendously high valued because they still have an order of magnitude or two of readily apparent growth. And a CEO's job of growth companies is to hype that growth, to drive investment/stock price, which drives the scaling and R&D. Uber: well. they do provide a physical service. It's just a taxi company at an app with google maps, but, I guess it is a physical service. Meta: once a monopoly, only exists due to ad fraud, and turnkey Big Brother infrastructure Google: still a monopoly, but also only exists due to ad fraud, and also provides turkey Big Brother infrastructre
- idiotsecant 4y ago
  You seem very emotionally attached to what people think of Elon Musk.
  - AtlasBarfed 4y ago
    What about my comment struck you so deep to the bone that you wondered what my "emotional attachment" to the media construct of Elon Musk is? Did I make it seem like I love Elon Musk and wish he'd return my phone calls? LIke I have some fucking shrine with his awkward mug on it? I do, but it's from when he was balding. How about you, 'idiotsecant', you seem emotionally invested to some pointless deep thread on something with the keyword "Elon Musk", what motivates your subconscious after spending 10,000 hours deep in social media and speculating on crypto? God forbid someone tries to apply some rational thought to "Elon Musk is the WORST" twitterlogic grouphate. The ISSUE IS that the entire world's panties are in a bunch over Elon being the "worst person ohmygod" when if you rank him in "worst CEOs in the world" he's probably about #20,000 after mining execs, petroleum companies, bankers, pharmaceutical companies, automotive execs, amazon execs, facebook/google, sweatshop manufacturers, meatpackers, pesticide makers, plastics companies, Xe, security companies, shipping, defense contractors, firearms manufacturers ... It shows a complete lack of understanding of the world and the serious shit we are in. Of course this manipulative bullshit you just posted means you're equally ignorant, even if you think you're not. Christ, and your day job is in alternative energy, you should know better. That's depressing.
    - idiotsecant 4y ago
      I think the fact that you spent your free time digging way into the post history of some stranger and writing this wall of text in response to a one sentence long throwaway comment that wasn't even from the person you were originally arguing with proves my point.

Elons wealth is liquid and he leverages SpaceX's image to drive public Tesla investment. When you invest, you invest in "Elon".

by kidme5 4y ago

Elons wealth is liquid and he leverages SpaceX's image to drive public Tesla investment. When you invest, you invest in "Elon".

AtlasBarfed 4y ago

This is a hilarious characterization given his companies actually manufacture physical goods and capabilities, revolutionary ones at that, while most of the people here work at funny money companies moving bits around to achieve unicorn valuation via hype and "exit". And even more hilarious that this comment is a garden variety take from armies of anti-Elon posters that are astroturfers. The word "Elon" is an internet lobbying battleground (and there are likely armies of pro-Elon roboposters). Armies driven by, at least initially, by funny money hedge fund bets. Bets that would have come true about 5 years ago if Tesla/SpaceX were pure hype/bullshit. SpaceX/Tesla are tremendously high valued because they still have an order of magnitude or two of readily apparent growth. And a CEO's job of growth companies is to hype that growth, to drive investment/stock price, which drives the scaling and R&D. Uber: well. they do provide a physical service. It's just a taxi company at an app with google maps, but, I guess it is a physical service. Meta: once a monopoly, only exists due to ad fraud, and turnkey Big Brother infrastructure Google: still a monopoly, but also only exists due to ad fraud, and also provides turkey Big Brother infrastructre

idiotsecant 4y ago
You seem very emotionally attached to what people think of Elon Musk.
- AtlasBarfed 4y ago
  What about my comment struck you so deep to the bone that you wondered what my "emotional attachment" to the media construct of Elon Musk is? Did I make it seem like I love Elon Musk and wish he'd return my phone calls? LIke I have some fucking shrine with his awkward mug on it? I do, but it's from when he was balding. How about you, 'idiotsecant', you seem emotionally invested to some pointless deep thread on something with the keyword "Elon Musk", what motivates your subconscious after spending 10,000 hours deep in social media and speculating on crypto? God forbid someone tries to apply some rational thought to "Elon Musk is the WORST" twitterlogic grouphate. The ISSUE IS that the entire world's panties are in a bunch over Elon being the "worst person ohmygod" when if you rank him in "worst CEOs in the world" he's probably about #20,000 after mining execs, petroleum companies, bankers, pharmaceutical companies, automotive execs, amazon execs, facebook/google, sweatshop manufacturers, meatpackers, pesticide makers, plastics companies, Xe, security companies, shipping, defense contractors, firearms manufacturers ... It shows a complete lack of understanding of the world and the serious shit we are in. Of course this manipulative bullshit you just posted means you're equally ignorant, even if you think you're not. Christ, and your day job is in alternative energy, you should know better. That's depressing.
  - idiotsecant 4y ago
    I think the fact that you spent your free time digging way into the post history of some stranger and writing this wall of text in response to a one sentence long throwaway comment that wasn't even from the person you were originally arguing with proves my point.