Fair enough. Just to be clear tho, I was asking for a rational discussion (or as I put it "substantiated reply as to why this isn't true", not for why I was bei

Fair enough. Just to be clear tho, I was asking for a rational discussion (or as I put it "substantiated reply as to why this isn't true", not for why I was being down voted ;) And again fair enough that in this situation it is very easy to not apply this to the original poster's question and situation (which analogy wise would be shouting at the entire group of people gathered at the funeral that it's this guy's fault for crossing the tracks vs. having a side conversation w/ someone who posited that maybe the guy was one of the ones that actually stands on tracks for thrill when he knows the train's about to be there ;))