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That’s not that terrible idea - it removes some of the stigma and potentially helps ensure the program provides value rather than just being a checkbox on the w
by pridkett 4y ago
That’s not that terrible idea - it removes some of the stigma and potentially helps ensure the program provides value rather than just being a checkbox on the way to termination.
- formerkrogemp 4y agoIt's still a checkbox used during termination.
- trynewideas 4y agoI also don't see how going through it reduces the stigma. The stigma exists _because_ of the experience, not the unfamiliarity of it. For instance, does the experience of going through US airport security ever reduce the stigma of it?
- kweingar 4y ago> does the experience of going through US airport security ever reduce the stigma of it? Some people feel degraded when they go through airport security, but it doesn’t carry a stigma. Nobody’s judging you for going through security so you can fly.
- kube-system 4y agoWhen you go through TSA, nobody thinks “oh, that person must be a terrorist because the TSA is screening them”. Because the TSA screens everyone. When someone is on a PIP, the expectation is “that person is about to get fired” This is the stigma we’re talking about.
- pram 4y agoAssuming PIP programs exist for any purpose other than establishing justification for termination.
- skeeter2020 4y ago>> it removes some of the stigma Stigma around being on a corrective performance plan should be removed?
- Firmwarrior 4y agoI guess it depends on whether your goal is to improve performance, or punish and humiliate people BTW: If anyone finds themselves on any sort of "performance improvement plan", do the BARE MINIMUM to not get fired outright. Ideally go to a therapist, talk about how stressed out you are and how fucked your situation is, and get an official FMLA (legally protected leave of absence). That'll give you some time to relax and look for a new job. Don't let your boss or website trolls gaslight you into thinking you can't find a new job that will treat you better.
- collegeburner 4y agoidk man seems plausible that the social pressure of not wanting to be the PIP bozo could be effective. also love how you assume that "anyone.. on any sort of performance improvement plan" is 100% not at fault, it must be the evil kkkapitalist boss "trolling" or "gaslighting". there are retards who don't do their jobs well and a PIP is sometimes trying to push them into doing better instead of firing.
- celdon25 4y agoThe type of place that you are most likely to need one of those will try to keep their official FTE headcount just below the minimum of 15 and use offshore contractors for the rest, or other loopholes such as shell companies, because there are so many labor laws (including FMLA) that don’t kick in until 15 employees.
- evilduck 4y agoI don't see the benefit of this strategy TBH. At best this tactic just drags out how long you can claim an employment dates with an employer but delays any future unemployment claim you could make until once fired and drags down everyone's opinion of you for abusing a legal protection for medical issues because your job performance was lacking. From an ethical standpoint, why not just lie about the situation to your future prospective employers and cut out wasting a therapist's time?
- licebmi__at__ 4y agoMaybe, it could be implemented as such, but it was mostly just a drag; it’s not like your workload got reduced because of being in the program, so following all the bullshit without reducing your actual performance would mean at best reduce your time to breath and decompress during work, or at worse, having to do extra time.