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That is a very far fetched statement. I am an Indian and technically from Other backward class (OBC) as classified in the system. I have never had a problem in

That is a very far fetched statement. I am an Indian and technically from Other backward class (OBC) as classified in the system. I have never had a problem in my city. Off course that doesn't mean that India is not a huge and complex country with 100s if not thousands of groups differentiated based on region, class , caste etc. You are colouring a very complicated and nuanced issue with your personal biases.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
What bias is it you think I have?
KrishnaShripad 4y ago
The only comment here that actually spoke the Facts as it is. Another commenter even said there is "systemic slavery" in India. Don't know whether to laugh or cry at the naivety of this individual. To think that 1.4 billion people, of which 80% belong to the so called "lower caste" strata, and that the rest 20% are enslaving the 80% is not only laughable but downright insane proposition. I wanted to respond but I know it is not worth spending my time and energy on such individuals. Just goes to show how bias clouds reason and logic. Propaganda in full swing! Thank you for speaking facts.
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  I said nothing about slavery, what are you talking about?
  - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
    Did I say it was you? I said "another commenter". If I wanted to say it was you, I would have said it was you.
    - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
      you lumped me in with them, implying an attitude I don't have. And before you try to claim otherwise, don't bother. The English language has implicature. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/implicature/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/implicature/
      - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
        I lumped you in with propagandists. Some spread propaganda of there being "systemic slavery" while others say "What the other poster meant is that you'll end up hiring out of the upper castes and they'll display a lot of bias towards other castes". Both are not borne out of facts but malicious propaganda. "It's to the point that many from India won't admit to the caste they're in." You are implying this in a negative manner. The reason people don't talk about caste is because we have progressed a lot in the past century. No one gives a damn about caste in their day-to-day life. It only props up in political rallies where talking about caste based discrimination is a precursor to lay the stage for either increased reservation or introducing new reservation in the already prevalent discriminatory quota system that exists in India (which should have been done away with in 10 years after our Independence as envisaged by Ambedkar himself but nevertheless continues to exist 70+ years after Independence corroding our society further). > And before you try to claim otherwise, don't bother I don't have to. You are a propagandist. I stand by that.
        P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
        right, you lumped me in with someone talking about slavery. That might have been the first indication you were being unfair. The poster I responded to thought they were talking about money, the poster was talking about castes. Leave your religious wars at the door please.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
About a month ago I watched an Indian man absolutely go off on another Indian man after hearing his name (this was over zoom). The Indian Man being accosted just took it, and yes, the disagreement was about the name. I've both read about it and seen it first hand. You don't typically see it expressed so publicly as the above anecdote, most of the time it comes across as an odd sort of subservience. Almost the way you would expect a mail room worker to act towards the CEO. No one said all Indian's are like this, but it has to do with the Paradox of Intolerance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance > The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. All it takes is for 1 or 2 individuals to have this attitude and it will eventually take over. No one ever said it was everyone, but the issue exists.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago

What bias is it you think I have?

KrishnaShripad 4y ago

The only comment here that actually spoke the Facts as it is. Another commenter even said there is "systemic slavery" in India. Don't know whether to laugh or cry at the naivety of this individual. To think that 1.4 billion people, of which 80% belong to the so called "lower caste" strata, and that the rest 20% are enslaving the 80% is not only laughable but downright insane proposition. I wanted to respond but I know it is not worth spending my time and energy on such individuals. Just goes to show how bias clouds reason and logic. Propaganda in full swing! Thank you for speaking facts.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
I said nothing about slavery, what are you talking about?
- KrishnaShripad 4y ago
  Did I say it was you? I said "another commenter". If I wanted to say it was you, I would have said it was you.
  - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
    you lumped me in with them, implying an attitude I don't have. And before you try to claim otherwise, don't bother. The English language has implicature. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/implicature/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/implicature/
    - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
      I lumped you in with propagandists. Some spread propaganda of there being "systemic slavery" while others say "What the other poster meant is that you'll end up hiring out of the upper castes and they'll display a lot of bias towards other castes". Both are not borne out of facts but malicious propaganda. "It's to the point that many from India won't admit to the caste they're in." You are implying this in a negative manner. The reason people don't talk about caste is because we have progressed a lot in the past century. No one gives a damn about caste in their day-to-day life. It only props up in political rallies where talking about caste based discrimination is a precursor to lay the stage for either increased reservation or introducing new reservation in the already prevalent discriminatory quota system that exists in India (which should have been done away with in 10 years after our Independence as envisaged by Ambedkar himself but nevertheless continues to exist 70+ years after Independence corroding our society further). > And before you try to claim otherwise, don't bother I don't have to. You are a propagandist. I stand by that.
      - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
        right, you lumped me in with someone talking about slavery. That might have been the first indication you were being unfair. The poster I responded to thought they were talking about money, the poster was talking about castes. Leave your religious wars at the door please.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago

About a month ago I watched an Indian man absolutely go off on another Indian man after hearing his name (this was over zoom). The Indian Man being accosted just took it, and yes, the disagreement was about the name. I've both read about it and seen it first hand. You don't typically see it expressed so publicly as the above anecdote, most of the time it comes across as an odd sort of subservience. Almost the way you would expect a mail room worker to act towards the CEO. No one said all Indian's are like this, but it has to do with the Paradox of Intolerance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance > The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. All it takes is for 1 or 2 individuals to have this attitude and it will eventually take over. No one ever said it was everyone, but the issue exists.