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> They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. What do you mean by this? That they refuse to work with women based on their

> They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. What do you mean by this? That they refuse to work with women based on their gender? "India has more women STEM grads than US, UK or France". And I see way way more women employees in software companies in India compared to US. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-has-more-women-stem-grads-than-us-uk-or-france/articleshow/84571128.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-has-more-wom...

petilon 4y ago
Right on! Technology firms in India have a better female to male staff ratio than the tech giants of Silicon Valley [1]. India has a much better male-to-female ratio compared with the U.S. Engineering male-female ratio in India is 1.96 as compared with 4.61 in the U.S. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-professional/2015/jun/24/why-women-in-stem-may-be-better-off-working-in-india-and-latin-america https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-professional/2015/jun/2... [2] https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/engineering-is-a-mane28099s-field-changing-a-stereotype-with-a-lesson-from-india/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/engineering-... What India Can Teach Silicon Valley About Its Gender Problem https://www.wired.com/2014/08/silicon-valley-sexism/ https://www.wired.com/2014/08/silicon-valley-sexism/ https://blog.hackerrank.com/which-countries-have-the-most-skilled-female-developers/ https://blog.hackerrank.com/which-countries-have-the-most-sk... The 2015 stackoverflow survey has this interesting statement: "Developers in India are 3-times more likely to be female than developers in the United States." See https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015 https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015 Actually it is worse than it sounds because most of the female developers in the United States are first generation immigrants from Asia and Eastern Europe.
giantg2 4y ago
I have a relative that worked for a US medical company. There were certain people who would take women's lunches out of the microwave right in front of them just so they could cook their own. She said they were mostly from the south central area of Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangledesh). It was only a few individuals, not everyone. Obviously this is a secondhand story, so I can't vouch for it directly. I was shocked and could barely believe what I was hearing.
KingOfCoders 4y ago
Not sure how your argument works. Because there are more women in STEM in India, Indians in the US can't ghost women?
- llampx 4y ago
  "Indians ghost women" is an assertion made without proof. More women engineers is a provable fact.
  - KingOfCoders 4y ago
    "The sun rises each morning" is also a provable fact but has no correlation (I guess) to the alleged ghosting of women by Indian men in the US. Again I'm not understanding the argument.
spoonjim 4y ago
Absolutely there is more gender parity, largely because the type of IT work done by the bodyshop firms like Infosys and TCS is more like a decently paid white collar McJob than anything else. You see a lot of female developers in Infosys because it’s (accurately) seen in the same universe as accounting or secretarial work.
- steveBK123 4y ago
  Yes, when I was there for training a large 20+ person team, the women stood out as some of the best & the brightest doers. Unfortunately none of them were ever onshored or promoted up. They were all kept behind the scenes while the men tried to control the comms to onshore.
bongoman37 4y ago
ShredKazoo 4y ago
The pattern seems to be that as a country becomes more gender-equal, gender-specific preferences become stronger: "the more that women have equal opportunities, the more they differ from men in their preferences" https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.aas9899 https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.aas9899

petilon 4y ago

Right on! Technology firms in India have a better female to male staff ratio than the tech giants of Silicon Valley [1]. India has a much better male-to-female ratio compared with the U.S. Engineering male-female ratio in India is 1.96 as compared with 4.61 in the U.S. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-professional/2015/jun/24/why-women-in-stem-may-be-better-off-working-in-india-and-latin-america https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-professional/2015/jun/2... [2] https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/engineering-is-a-mane28099s-field-changing-a-stereotype-with-a-lesson-from-india/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/engineering-... What India Can Teach Silicon Valley About Its Gender Problem https://www.wired.com/2014/08/silicon-valley-sexism/ https://www.wired.com/2014/08/silicon-valley-sexism/ https://blog.hackerrank.com/which-countries-have-the-most-skilled-female-developers/ https://blog.hackerrank.com/which-countries-have-the-most-sk... The 2015 stackoverflow survey has this interesting statement: "Developers in India are 3-times more likely to be female than developers in the United States." See https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015 https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015 Actually it is worse than it sounds because most of the female developers in the United States are first generation immigrants from Asia and Eastern Europe.

giantg2 4y ago

I have a relative that worked for a US medical company. There were certain people who would take women's lunches out of the microwave right in front of them just so they could cook their own. She said they were mostly from the south central area of Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangledesh). It was only a few individuals, not everyone. Obviously this is a secondhand story, so I can't vouch for it directly. I was shocked and could barely believe what I was hearing.

KingOfCoders 4y ago

Not sure how your argument works. Because there are more women in STEM in India, Indians in the US can't ghost women?

llampx 4y ago
"Indians ghost women" is an assertion made without proof. More women engineers is a provable fact.
- KingOfCoders 4y ago
  "The sun rises each morning" is also a provable fact but has no correlation (I guess) to the alleged ghosting of women by Indian men in the US. Again I'm not understanding the argument.

spoonjim 4y ago

Absolutely there is more gender parity, largely because the type of IT work done by the bodyshop firms like Infosys and TCS is more like a decently paid white collar McJob than anything else. You see a lot of female developers in Infosys because it’s (accurately) seen in the same universe as accounting or secretarial work.

steveBK123 4y ago
Yes, when I was there for training a large 20+ person team, the women stood out as some of the best & the brightest doers. Unfortunately none of them were ever onshored or promoted up. They were all kept behind the scenes while the men tried to control the comms to onshore.

bongoman37 4y ago

ShredKazoo 4y ago

The pattern seems to be that as a country becomes more gender-equal, gender-specific preferences become stronger: "the more that women have equal opportunities, the more they differ from men in their preferences" https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.aas9899 https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.aas9899