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> Less than a week after the plaintiff was fired, the Rijswijk branch of Chetu Inc. was deregistered from the Chamber of Commerce and shut down on 2 September,

> Less than a week after the plaintiff was fired, the Rijswijk branch of Chetu Inc. was deregistered from the Chamber of Commerce and shut down on 2 September, records show. So, it's a fair assumption that no organisation in the Netherlands is going to pay out as a result of this. What are the chances of the employee being able to enforce this judgment in a Florida court?

V__ 4y ago
Looking at their website [1] they still have a location (branch?) in the UK. I don't know how Brexit changed the legal frameworks between the UK and EU, but I would assume that could be a avenue to get some enforcement. [1] https://www.chetu.com/locations.php https://www.chetu.com/locations.php
- Archelaos 4y ago
  The UK (together with Denmark) was never part of the European Account Preservation Order, established in 2017. So the comparatively easy EU process to freez funds in another EU country was never possible there. What is possible according to UK law, I do not know.
  - matthewheath 4y ago
    It is possible to get a freezing order through the courts to freeze assets like land, property, bank accounts, etc. It operates similarly to the European Account Preservation Order, and under the right circumstances it is possible to apply for a freezing order on a _without notice_ basis meaning that the employer would not be aware of the order until it is issued.
Archelaos 4y ago
There may be another way for the employee to get his money: Provided that the company still has a bank account somewhere in the EU (except Denmark), a creditor can apply that the funds are to be freezed. The debtor does not have to be informed of this in advance. Then a court order can be obtained to be paid out of the freezed funds. See: https://e-justice.europa.eu/379/EN/european_account_preservation_order https://e-justice.europa.eu/379/EN/european_account_preserva...
- NotYourLawyer 4y ago
  If they’ve deregistered the company, presumably they drained the accounts too.
nraynaud 4y ago
There is a mechanism to get civil lawsuits results registered accross borders for collection, I don't know how difficult it is to use.
izacus 4y ago
Cross border collections are a thing between western nations. After all, US courts want to collect damages from EU countries as well. It takes time and usually isn't worth for small amounts... But for 75k someone will take time.
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londons_explore 4y ago
I believe most European countries require some kind of employee liability insurance that will end up paying this.
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telesilla 4y ago
I was of the understanding that you cannot open a business in the Netherlands if you are not resident or have no local office - or does it simply require you have employees and pay the relevant taxes? It seems too easy for the owner to have gotten out of this without recourse.
btbuildem 4y ago
They'll collect eventually, and Chetu will have to pay interest on the late payments on top of it all. The longer the process takes, the more they pay.

V__ 4y ago

Looking at their website [1] they still have a location (branch?) in the UK. I don't know how Brexit changed the legal frameworks between the UK and EU, but I would assume that could be a avenue to get some enforcement. [1] https://www.chetu.com/locations.php https://www.chetu.com/locations.php

Archelaos 4y ago
The UK (together with Denmark) was never part of the European Account Preservation Order, established in 2017. So the comparatively easy EU process to freez funds in another EU country was never possible there. What is possible according to UK law, I do not know.
- matthewheath 4y ago
  It is possible to get a freezing order through the courts to freeze assets like land, property, bank accounts, etc. It operates similarly to the European Account Preservation Order, and under the right circumstances it is possible to apply for a freezing order on a _without notice_ basis meaning that the employer would not be aware of the order until it is issued.

Archelaos 4y ago

There may be another way for the employee to get his money: Provided that the company still has a bank account somewhere in the EU (except Denmark), a creditor can apply that the funds are to be freezed. The debtor does not have to be informed of this in advance. Then a court order can be obtained to be paid out of the freezed funds. See: https://e-justice.europa.eu/379/EN/european_account_preservation_order https://e-justice.europa.eu/379/EN/european_account_preserva...

NotYourLawyer 4y ago
If they’ve deregistered the company, presumably they drained the accounts too.

nraynaud 4y ago

There is a mechanism to get civil lawsuits results registered accross borders for collection, I don't know how difficult it is to use.

izacus 4y ago

Cross border collections are a thing between western nations. After all, US courts want to collect damages from EU countries as well. It takes time and usually isn't worth for small amounts... But for 75k someone will take time.

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londons_explore 4y ago

I believe most European countries require some kind of employee liability insurance that will end up paying this.

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telesilla 4y ago

I was of the understanding that you cannot open a business in the Netherlands if you are not resident or have no local office - or does it simply require you have employees and pay the relevant taxes? It seems too easy for the owner to have gotten out of this without recourse.

btbuildem 4y ago

They'll collect eventually, and Chetu will have to pay interest on the late payments on top of it all. The longer the process takes, the more they pay.