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My view is the climate is changing, and it's either too late or we lack the ability to control the climate. Therefore, we must work with what we have and prepar
by smarri 4y ago
My view is the climate is changing, and it's either too late or we lack the ability to control the climate. Therefore, we must work with what we have and prepare for new weather and new local climate systems. Of interest:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-w...
- dmm 4y ago> it's either too late or we lack the ability to control the climate It's never too late to stop making things worse. And if we don't change our emissions it's going to get much worse.
- smarri 4y agoYes that's true, I agree.
- bavell 4y ago> It's never too late to stop making things worse. I don't know, we could already be stuck in a positive feedback loop with no hope of reversing the trend until the pendulum swings back in another 10k years. That's the difficulty with climate science, there are so many variables and the system is so complex that analysis is extremely difficult. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not saying we can't do ANY analysis or that we can't see the larger trends... just that the devil is in the details and we can't predict exactly what's going to happen or when.
- pxmpxm 4y agoThat's not necessarily true, right? There are large costs associated with changing what we're doing and in absence of being able to actually control the climate, those resources would be better spent on dealing with the outcome. If you're standing downhill from an avalanche that you set off when you clapped your hands, making sure no one claps will not be your chief concern.
- pjc50 4y agoI'm not sure I see your argument - we are controlling the climate, we've set it to "warm".
- incrudible 4y agoGood. I like "warm".
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- jbu 4y agoIt seem we do have the ability to control the climate, because that's what we're doing. So, we can stop making it worse which is good! But we're definitely going to have to adapt because even if we stop it we've already changed things somewhat. The question is who, where, how much. And how much the adaptation will cost, and whether people can afford it, and and and.
- incrudible 4y ago> So, we can stop making it worse which is good! How exactly is the climate worse today? The planet is greener than ever. Warming isn't intrinsically bad, as people are more likely to die from cold rather than heat.
- smcn 4y agoYou cannot be paying attention. Or trolling. Hopefully trolling.
- foobiekr 4y agoTrolling implies agency. Repeating bland climate change denial isn’t really something people with strong agency do.
- enchiridion 4y agoAd-hominem attacks aren’t a good way to conduct any discussion.
- jbu 4y agoPerhaps for you it's fine. For low lying states it's not good. Turns out that's Florida too. Australia had to add levels to their fire danger charts. etc, etc... look, on the off chance that your remark was in good faith and you're really interested in an answer, try the recent Chatham House report [1], or the IPCC ones, or the US national assessment (forgot the name - google it for me will ya?) [1]https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/09/climate-change-risk-assessment-2021 https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/09/climate-change-risk-ass..., or the Potsdam Institute ones, to scratch the surface. You know, do your own research.