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>The only country that is threating 1st strike is Russia. >All of Putin's speeches are available in english on the kremlin website. Shh! --you're spoiling

>The only country that is threating 1st strike is Russia. >All of Putin's speeches are available in english on the kremlin website. Shh! --you're spoiling the doublethink. It's the same as how the energy crisis has now become "Russia turned off the taps" when, in fact, Europe decided to shoot itself in the foot by refusing to buy Russian gas, beforehand. Now "Russia has threatened to use nuclear weapons" when, in fact They never said any such thing. There were just some vague threats to use whatever means necessary [or similar] to defend 'their people' in Ukraine. Even after BBC News [Nation Shall Speak Propaganda Unto Nation] played Putin's speech [with overdubbed translation] where he pointedly DIDN'T mention nuclear weapons at all, the newsreader summarised the speech by saying Putin had "threatened to use nuclear weapons" It really is like living in Orwell's 1984 these days. Consequences are quoted as initiating actions and even when we're [rarely] allowed to hear what Goldstein actually said, we're officiaslly informed that he said something else.

flohofwoe 4y ago
> "Russia turned off the taps"... Europe decided to shoot itself in the foot by refusing to buy Russian gas, beforehand. Russia has indeed 'turned off the taps' (at least Nord Stream 1). At first the excuse was maintenance work, but when that excuse didn't work any longer they first reduced and then stopped the gas flow completely.
- DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
  It would be very silly for the Europeans to think that Russia would continue supplying them with gas after the EU cut Russia off from the international financial system. This was the obvious consequence.
- rjzzleep 4y ago
  > Russia has indeed 'turned off the taps' (at least Nord Stream 1). At first the excuse was maintenance work, but when that excuse didn't work any longer they first reduced and then stopped the gas flow completely. There was maintenance work every year at that time. Nobody has seen the maintenance contract, so there are opinions that the reason why Russia refuses to install the repaired turbines is because they wanted to turn off the tap. While that part is pure speculation, what's agreed fact is that Canada refused to send back the turbines to Russia(because of European sanctions) and after long begging from Germany sent them to Germany instead. What I also know first hand is that in bigger construction projects nobody would accept hacks(for example an elevator sent through an intermediary rather than the counterparty that signed the contract with) that might result in potential liability issues, especially when the counterparty is already hostile towards you. Just last week German media reported that if the leaked stays for too long Nordstream will corrode irreparably. Nordstream AG requested to assess and repair the Nordstream damage and Norway refused to give them a permit[1]. So, yeah, maybe. But there are a lot of factors at play here before Russia turned off the tap and even then it wasn't fully turned off. [1] https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/nord-stream-1-pipeline-operator-says-norway-blocked-permits-unable-to-conduct-inspection-articleshow.html https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-cris...

flohofwoe 4y ago

> "Russia turned off the taps"... Europe decided to shoot itself in the foot by refusing to buy Russian gas, beforehand. Russia has indeed 'turned off the taps' (at least Nord Stream 1). At first the excuse was maintenance work, but when that excuse didn't work any longer they first reduced and then stopped the gas flow completely.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
It would be very silly for the Europeans to think that Russia would continue supplying them with gas after the EU cut Russia off from the international financial system. This was the obvious consequence.
rjzzleep 4y ago
> Russia has indeed 'turned off the taps' (at least Nord Stream 1). At first the excuse was maintenance work, but when that excuse didn't work any longer they first reduced and then stopped the gas flow completely. There was maintenance work every year at that time. Nobody has seen the maintenance contract, so there are opinions that the reason why Russia refuses to install the repaired turbines is because they wanted to turn off the tap. While that part is pure speculation, what's agreed fact is that Canada refused to send back the turbines to Russia(because of European sanctions) and after long begging from Germany sent them to Germany instead. What I also know first hand is that in bigger construction projects nobody would accept hacks(for example an elevator sent through an intermediary rather than the counterparty that signed the contract with) that might result in potential liability issues, especially when the counterparty is already hostile towards you. Just last week German media reported that if the leaked stays for too long Nordstream will corrode irreparably. Nordstream AG requested to assess and repair the Nordstream damage and Norway refused to give them a permit[1]. So, yeah, maybe. But there are a lot of factors at play here before Russia turned off the tap and even then it wasn't fully turned off. [1] https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/nord-stream-1-pipeline-operator-says-norway-blocked-permits-unable-to-conduct-inspection-articleshow.html https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-cris...