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mostly agreeable except for the premise that Ukrainians should be a passive lot that either should’ve resigned themselves to remain an impoverished, looted, vas
by eecc 4y ago
mostly agreeable except for the premise that Ukrainians should be a passive lot that either should’ve resigned themselves to remain an impoverished, looted, vassal state like Belarus or Russia itself, or are acting as a pawn in US geopolitical hands. They — seemingly — aspire to more than that.
- rjzzleep 4y agoThere was nothing passive about this. There was a clear peace plan and Ukraine refused to implement any of it[1][2]. December 2020 there was to be a discussion on the matter in the UNSC but Germany and France refused it, which were actual guarantors of the peace plan. [1] https://www.ibtimes.com/minsk-ceasefire-deal-full-text-agreement-between-russia-ukraine-germany-france-1814468 https://www.ibtimes.com/minsk-ceasefire-deal-full-text-agree... [2] https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2016/09/13/what-are-the-minsk-agreements https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2016/09/13/...
- _visgean 4y agolol are you saying that UA is reponsible for breaking the peace? You mean the country that got invaded? By the country that guaranteed its territorial sovereignty.
- avgcorrection 4y ago> mostly agreeable except for the premise that Ukrainians should be a passive lot that either should’ve resigned themselves How did you divine this? Actually never mind: the OP is working off of either a quote from somewhere else (not the submission) or a mock-statement which is supposed to be said by people he/she disagrees with. What a confusing subthread.