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I find it strange that no one is mentioning UWIN[1], started by David Korn about the same time and with the same goals as Cygwin. I used to use it. I liked the

by 4ad 15y ago

I find it strange that no one is mentioning UWIN[1], started by David Korn about the same time and with the same goals as Cygwin. I used to use it. I liked the fact that it used the host compiler instead of gcc, plus I preferred the non-GNU tools. Now I'm using Inferno, it works much better. It's not Unix, it's Plan9, but I view that as a plus. Of course cygwin can install all kinds of Unixy tools, like gcc, openssh, xterm and whatnot. Inferno doesn't come with anything, but I don't need anything except the basic Plan9 tools. [1] http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/download/uwin/uwin.html http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/download/uwin/uwin.html

RexRollman 15y ago
You run Inferno on top on Windows as an application? I have read that this is possible but I have never seen anyone doing this, not even in a screenshot. If so, what's your opinion of it as an environment? (By the way, Inferno's implementation reminds me of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon, which could also run as either an application or as an operating system.)
- 4ad 15y ago
  Yes! Inferno can run both native, on the bare hardware, or hosted under Unix, Windows or Plan9. Most people run Inferno hosted because it's easy and you can benefit from the host operating system services as well. For me, it's the best environment because I can have Acme (the editor), Plan9 name spaces and the Plan9 tools which I am most familiar with on any operating system I use. You can use either full Inferno [1] or Acme SAC [2]. Hosted Inferno runs in a window, which feels awkward to me, so I use Acme SAC which is a native host window and I run the shell inside Acme. Acme is the only graphical Inferno program I care about anyway. [1] http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/downloads.html http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/downloads.html [2] http://www.caerwyn.com/acme/ http://www.caerwyn.com/acme/
  - soapdog 15y ago
    Thanks for the links. Can you elaborate more on what you like about Acme? I am not bashing it, I just want to know, never used Acme.

by 4ad 15y ago

RexRollman 15y ago

You run Inferno on top on Windows as an application? I have read that this is possible but I have never seen anyone doing this, not even in a screenshot. If so, what's your opinion of it as an environment? (By the way, Inferno's implementation reminds me of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon, which could also run as either an application or as an operating system.)

4ad 15y ago
Yes! Inferno can run both native, on the bare hardware, or hosted under Unix, Windows or Plan9. Most people run Inferno hosted because it's easy and you can benefit from the host operating system services as well. For me, it's the best environment because I can have Acme (the editor), Plan9 name spaces and the Plan9 tools which I am most familiar with on any operating system I use. You can use either full Inferno [1] or Acme SAC [2]. Hosted Inferno runs in a window, which feels awkward to me, so I use Acme SAC which is a native host window and I run the shell inside Acme. Acme is the only graphical Inferno program I care about anyway. [1] http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/downloads.html http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/downloads.html [2] http://www.caerwyn.com/acme/ http://www.caerwyn.com/acme/
- soapdog 15y ago
  Thanks for the links. Can you elaborate more on what you like about Acme? I am not bashing it, I just want to know, never used Acme.