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> Its just that MacOS, being run on almost entirely fixed hardware with off-brand/custom apis (Metal) isnt attractive for gpu makers in any capacity. It has no

> Its just that MacOS, being run on almost entirely fixed hardware with off-brand/custom apis (Metal) isnt attractive for gpu makers in any capacity. It has nothing to do with macOS and nothing to do with GPU manufacturers, only that Apple Silicon drivers for eGPUs do not exist, and there is no reason for them to exist because M1 delivers better performance than any eGPU. > Otoh on Linux it should just work! There's a diesel truck I want, has the power and performance I need, but I just hate diesel. Why are they forcing me to use a fuel I hate? What are the chances I can get this diesel engine to run on linux gas? Linux gas is such a cool fuel, I can do almost anything with it and not be locked in to the diesel walled garden. I also have this compact car that I just hate the engine, it's only 1 liter. Why do car manufacturers force their stupid flashy engines on us? I want to put a 20 liter linux engine in there, but the engine bay is too small. What are the chances I'll ever be able to squeeze my linux engine in there? Someone should just release a GNU/XNU distribution, call it "ARMac 'Linux'" and be done with it, because 99% of the cry babies don't really care about Linux, they just think that they do. All they really want is GNU. The other 0.9% can use MacPorts to build or install and run GNOME on macOS, and tell everyone it's Linux. Unless they saw the directory structure, Penguinistas wouldn't know the difference. For the remaining 0.1% that actually do want and need the Linux kernel on Apple Silicon, only they deserve our sympathy.

alex7o 4y ago
I like the fastest cheap, arm docker compatible server. And as far as I know, docker doesn't work on XNU
- Maursault 4y ago
  That's tough. Mac Pro for you, if it must be Mac hardware. But why on earth Mac docker server? Obviously not for professional purposes. For play, use any x86 box you like, just because you want speed doesn't mean speed is necessary. If it must be Apple Silicon, then you can run as many virtual instances of macOS as you like on my GNU/XNU ARMac "Linux" (not actually Linux) release, and as many Docker Desktop for Apple Silicon as virtual instances of macOS. But if Docker had any decency, they'd release the source code to you, so you could build it native for Apple Silicon XNU. Have you considered working for Docker? Would make it a lot easier to get the source code, or just move through the ranks and make it a Docker initiative. Or suppose we agree while you can't actually run docker server on Apple Silicon, because the code doesn't exist, which is no one's fault, not even Apple's, but that you can still have the right to run docker server on Apple Silicon. We shall fight your oppressors for your right to run docker server on Apple Silicon because it is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
- oneplane 4y ago
  > I like the fastest cheap, arm docker compatible server. Specs unclear, Pi Zero can do this for 35 dollars. It's the fastest you can get for cheap. But not the cheapest one of the fastest ones, that would be Graviton, but you can't get those because only Amazon manufactures them for themselves. So that leaves Ampere Altra but that's not cheap unless you need to scale. I guess you need a Kunpeng 920 then.
  - Maursault 4y ago
    Here are excellent points and practical and positive solutions. To get it done, do what works rather than pine for what doesn't.

alex7o 4y ago

I like the fastest cheap, arm docker compatible server. And as far as I know, docker doesn't work on XNU

Maursault 4y ago
That's tough. Mac Pro for you, if it must be Mac hardware. But why on earth Mac docker server? Obviously not for professional purposes. For play, use any x86 box you like, just because you want speed doesn't mean speed is necessary. If it must be Apple Silicon, then you can run as many virtual instances of macOS as you like on my GNU/XNU ARMac "Linux" (not actually Linux) release, and as many Docker Desktop for Apple Silicon as virtual instances of macOS. But if Docker had any decency, they'd release the source code to you, so you could build it native for Apple Silicon XNU. Have you considered working for Docker? Would make it a lot easier to get the source code, or just move through the ranks and make it a Docker initiative. Or suppose we agree while you can't actually run docker server on Apple Silicon, because the code doesn't exist, which is no one's fault, not even Apple's, but that you can still have the right to run docker server on Apple Silicon. We shall fight your oppressors for your right to run docker server on Apple Silicon because it is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
oneplane 4y ago
> I like the fastest cheap, arm docker compatible server. Specs unclear, Pi Zero can do this for 35 dollars. It's the fastest you can get for cheap. But not the cheapest one of the fastest ones, that would be Graviton, but you can't get those because only Amazon manufactures them for themselves. So that leaves Ampere Altra but that's not cheap unless you need to scale. I guess you need a Kunpeng 920 then.
- Maursault 4y ago
  Here are excellent points and practical and positive solutions. To get it done, do what works rather than pine for what doesn't.