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Yep, this pretty much ends Ubuntu for me. It was a good run, 8.04 was a historic release, but it has definitely gone off the rails now.

by jbirer 4y ago

pjmlp 4y ago
Thankfully there are always forks available for those that won't pay for the work of others. When in the end only commercial Linux distributions get the goodies, don't be sad.
- jbirer 4y ago
  We always had the goodies, developed by the open source community. GIMP is easier to my hand than Photoshop in a lot of uses. The encroaching of the subscription model into Linux is not something acceptable to me though.
unethical_ban 4y ago
I call bullshit. Fourteen umyears of using Ubuntu, through security issues, Amazon ads, Unity and back to Gnome, and so on. But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it?
- jbirer 4y ago
  >through security issues I did not really care back then, even happy as a teenager that I was able to use a root exploit to get root on our high school's computers. It's something that you become curious about in your 20s >Amazon ads It was literally just an Unity bar icon and search results. >Unity Was awesome. Definitely not as good as GNOME 2 with the Human murrine theme but the keyboard shortcuts and the search made it a pleasure to work with >But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it? It's not just that. These things creep up slowly, companies start testing waters and then things progress. Look at Windows, soon you will have to pay a subscription to use it, you will own nothing.
- Shared404 4y ago
  > But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it? Nit: The motd has had ad's for a long time. This is about ad's in apt's output.
  - lern_too_spel 4y ago
    apt is a new program that has human-readable output with suggestions meant for human consumption. apt-get still exists and behaves exactly as always.
    - Shared404 4y ago
      I wasn't making any value judgement on the situation, just nitpicking GP's comment for accuracy. I will probably not use Ubuntu for any personal stuff after this, but I already wasn't.
- John23832 4y ago
  Why would you deal with any of that when there’s Debian?
  - unethical_ban 4y ago
    Better closed source support when needed, and ZFS out of the box. It's been a while since I compared though, I'm only using prox ox (debian) for a vm server and fedora for laptop.

Yep, this pretty much ends Ubuntu for me. It was a good run, 8.04 was a historic release, but it has definitely gone off the rails now.

by jbirer 4y ago

Yep, this pretty much ends Ubuntu for me. It was a good run, 8.04 was a historic release, but it has definitely gone off the rails now.

pjmlp 4y ago

Thankfully there are always forks available for those that won't pay for the work of others. When in the end only commercial Linux distributions get the goodies, don't be sad.

jbirer 4y ago
We always had the goodies, developed by the open source community. GIMP is easier to my hand than Photoshop in a lot of uses. The encroaching of the subscription model into Linux is not something acceptable to me though.

unethical_ban 4y ago

I call bullshit. Fourteen umyears of using Ubuntu, through security issues, Amazon ads, Unity and back to Gnome, and so on. But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it?

jbirer 4y ago
>through security issues I did not really care back then, even happy as a teenager that I was able to use a root exploit to get root on our high school's computers. It's something that you become curious about in your 20s >Amazon ads It was literally just an Unity bar icon and search results. >Unity Was awesome. Definitely not as good as GNOME 2 with the Human murrine theme but the keyboard shortcuts and the search made it a pleasure to work with >But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it? It's not just that. These things creep up slowly, companies start testing waters and then things progress. Look at Windows, soon you will have to pay a subscription to use it, you will own nothing.
Shared404 4y ago
> But an ad for a pro service in the motd does it? Nit: The motd has had ad's for a long time. This is about ad's in apt's output.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  apt is a new program that has human-readable output with suggestions meant for human consumption. apt-get still exists and behaves exactly as always.
  - Shared404 4y ago
    I wasn't making any value judgement on the situation, just nitpicking GP's comment for accuracy. I will probably not use Ubuntu for any personal stuff after this, but I already wasn't.
John23832 4y ago
Why would you deal with any of that when there’s Debian?
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  Better closed source support when needed, and ZFS out of the box. It's been a while since I compared though, I'm only using prox ox (debian) for a vm server and fedora for laptop.