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Meanwhile, in Stellaris: > pew, pew. pew pew pew! Seriously though thanks for this. I picked up EUIII a little while ago and also Crusader Kings, but couldn't

Meanwhile, in Stellaris: > pew, pew. pew pew pew! Seriously though thanks for this. I picked up EUIII a little while ago and also Crusader Kings, but couldn't work out how either of them worked really. Stellaris took me a little while, but I got there. I think you might have convinced me to pick up Victoria.

dmitriid 4y ago
I watched a few playthroughs of Crusader Kings (esp. by Quill18 on Youtube) before I understood enough to play without cheats.
wellthisisgreat 4y ago
Give CkIII a fair shot, it’s amazing and unique
cptnapalm 4y ago
For CK, the advice for becoming familiar with it was to start out in Ireland. It's more isolated, so fewer moving parts.
ecshafer 4y ago
Victoria II is my favorite personally, and Victoria III is coming soon. Victoria is the only strategy game that has made just internal economic development interesting. I like Stellaris, but its more of a standard 4x game so I didn't feel the need to include it. If you've played Galactic Civilization, Civilization, Sins of A Solar Empire, Sword of the Stars, Endless Space, etc. You pretty much understand stellaris I think.
- fphhotchips 4y ago
  Would you recommend picking up Vic II as largely a finished (and probably heavily discounted) game with all the DLC, or should I pick up Vic III when it comes out?
  - djbebs 4y ago
    Victoria 2 is a very good game, and you can get it fairly cheaply (5€ when I bought it on steam), so it is well worth the money. That said it is a very old game, and it shows in terms of functionality and game play. If you’re just getting started when it comes to paradox games, and you're looking to victoria, then I'd recommend waiting until the 25th of this month when victoria 3 comes out, and get that instead. It will have issues, but will be much more familiar to a "modern gamer" than the 10+ year old victoria 2.
deaddodo 4y ago
If you enjoy Stellaris, the mechanics are similar on a base level. Ultimately, almost anyone is fairly novice at Paradox (and, grand strategy in general) games for the first few runs. Mastering the mechanics is part of what fans enjoy, so it might be worth it to just play and learn. All of the games have deep wikis to help you along with understanding the mechanics (religion, influence, wars, relations, etc).

dmitriid 4y ago

I watched a few playthroughs of Crusader Kings (esp. by Quill18 on Youtube) before I understood enough to play without cheats.

wellthisisgreat 4y ago

Give CkIII a fair shot, it’s amazing and unique

cptnapalm 4y ago

For CK, the advice for becoming familiar with it was to start out in Ireland. It's more isolated, so fewer moving parts.

ecshafer 4y ago

Victoria II is my favorite personally, and Victoria III is coming soon. Victoria is the only strategy game that has made just internal economic development interesting. I like Stellaris, but its more of a standard 4x game so I didn't feel the need to include it. If you've played Galactic Civilization, Civilization, Sins of A Solar Empire, Sword of the Stars, Endless Space, etc. You pretty much understand stellaris I think.

fphhotchips 4y ago
Would you recommend picking up Vic II as largely a finished (and probably heavily discounted) game with all the DLC, or should I pick up Vic III when it comes out?
- djbebs 4y ago
  Victoria 2 is a very good game, and you can get it fairly cheaply (5€ when I bought it on steam), so it is well worth the money. That said it is a very old game, and it shows in terms of functionality and game play. If you’re just getting started when it comes to paradox games, and you're looking to victoria, then I'd recommend waiting until the 25th of this month when victoria 3 comes out, and get that instead. It will have issues, but will be much more familiar to a "modern gamer" than the 10+ year old victoria 2.

deaddodo 4y ago

If you enjoy Stellaris, the mechanics are similar on a base level. Ultimately, almost anyone is fairly novice at Paradox (and, grand strategy in general) games for the first few runs. Mastering the mechanics is part of what fans enjoy, so it might be worth it to just play and learn. All of the games have deep wikis to help you along with understanding the mechanics (religion, influence, wars, relations, etc).