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I will be bias here as I made my own ORM (for typescript and postgre, no less), but I have to hard disagree. As other comments have pointed out, ORMs are about

by samhuk 4y ago

I will be bias here as I made my own ORM (for typescript and postgre, no less), but I have to hard disagree. As other comments have pointed out, ORMs are about productivity, getting persistence done quickly. Also what you just said is widely applicable - by your thinking, all programming languages are "a waste of time" and an excuse to not learn how to write binary files/machine code by hand? Also, it doesn't have to be black and white - ORM or no ORM. No one is forcing you to choose between using an ORM for all of your persistence or not using an ORM for anything. It is continuous - you can use ORMs for a *proportion" of persistence logic. Few more points, but I think the drift is caught.

yrgulation 4y ago
“ Also, it doesn't have to be black and white - ORM or no ORM The sad state of the php world is that there is no other option but to use it. If something is on fashion then it _must_ be adopted. Writing your own is considered insanity and so is taking a different path than the mass, regardless of for good reason or not.