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> Why work hard? Whoa. Do you honestly think people younger than you don't work hard? I've got like three different jobs I've got to work just to make rent and

> Why work hard? Whoa. Do you honestly think people younger than you don't work hard? I've got like three different jobs I've got to work just to make rent and sometimes eat. Has no one remembered, https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/ https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millenn...

armchairhacker 4y ago
Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard. At least if you look at public schools and universities across the country, and the sentiment on r/antiwork. Many are putting in the bare minimum. The entire point of the above comment and the article, they're not working hard because the millennials and those who have worked hard are still struggling and cannot make rent making three jobs. So there is seemingly no point. In the past, you put extra effort in university to get a well-paying job and your job to get a promotion; now there are people with Master's degrees who work in McDonald's and it seems like promotions only go to relatives. You can run at 5k pace to finish a 5k, but you cannot run at 5k pace for an indefinite amount of time. Similarly, younger generations would push themselves harder if they believe it would make their future lives easier, but they don't.
- kar5pt 4y ago
  Why would you view schools and reddit as conclusive data on how hard young people are working?
  - justinator 4y ago
    Why are they explaining my own situation to me as if they're some sort of expert?
- justinator 4y ago
  > Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard Did you mean to miss a complete generation? > Similarly, younger generations would push themselves harder if they believe it would make their future lives easier, but they don't. Where in the world are you getting this idea? I'm working as hard as I can. It just doesn't go very far. Look at the rise of housing prices and inflation. Look at interest rates. I can't even tread water, and to think it's any different is looking at a place of privilege I do not enjoy, and I'm calling you out on it.
- gruez 4y ago
  >Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard. At least if you look at public schools and universities across the country What am I supposed to be looking at? Is there any statistic you're referring to in particular? >and the sentiment on r/antiwork r/antiwork's population is self selected to be... antiwork. Extrapolating the beliefs of that population to the whole country makes zero sense.
labrador 4y ago
I didn't say young people don't work hard, especially poor people who struggle to keep a roof over their head and their bellies full. I'm saying there is less reason to work hard for many young people. I'm not talking about poor people. I'm talking about young people with jobs who are comfortable but see no reason to really buckle down and sacrifice when there is no reward and no upward mobility. If you can't afford a house and kids, then what's the point of going the extra mile (increase productivity)?
- justinator 4y ago
  > I'm saying there is less reason to work hard for many young people. There's just so "hard" one can work. The same amount of work is garnering less money: full stop. It's certainly not about "Well why work any harder?" It's that what you have is absolutely out of reach, no matter how hard you work.

armchairhacker 4y ago

Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard. At least if you look at public schools and universities across the country, and the sentiment on r/antiwork. Many are putting in the bare minimum. The entire point of the above comment and the article, they're not working hard because the millennials and those who have worked hard are still struggling and cannot make rent making three jobs. So there is seemingly no point. In the past, you put extra effort in university to get a well-paying job and your job to get a promotion; now there are people with Master's degrees who work in McDonald's and it seems like promotions only go to relatives. You can run at 5k pace to finish a 5k, but you cannot run at 5k pace for an indefinite amount of time. Similarly, younger generations would push themselves harder if they believe it would make their future lives easier, but they don't.

kar5pt 4y ago
Why would you view schools and reddit as conclusive data on how hard young people are working?
- justinator 4y ago
  Why are they explaining my own situation to me as if they're some sort of expert?
justinator 4y ago
> Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard Did you mean to miss a complete generation? > Similarly, younger generations would push themselves harder if they believe it would make their future lives easier, but they don't. Where in the world are you getting this idea? I'm working as hard as I can. It just doesn't go very far. Look at the rise of housing prices and inflation. Look at interest rates. I can't even tread water, and to think it's any different is looking at a place of privilege I do not enjoy, and I'm calling you out on it.
gruez 4y ago
>Most gen X and Z aren't working very hard. At least if you look at public schools and universities across the country What am I supposed to be looking at? Is there any statistic you're referring to in particular? >and the sentiment on r/antiwork r/antiwork's population is self selected to be... antiwork. Extrapolating the beliefs of that population to the whole country makes zero sense.

labrador 4y ago

I didn't say young people don't work hard, especially poor people who struggle to keep a roof over their head and their bellies full. I'm saying there is less reason to work hard for many young people. I'm not talking about poor people. I'm talking about young people with jobs who are comfortable but see no reason to really buckle down and sacrifice when there is no reward and no upward mobility. If you can't afford a house and kids, then what's the point of going the extra mile (increase productivity)?

justinator 4y ago
> I'm saying there is less reason to work hard for many young people. There's just so "hard" one can work. The same amount of work is garnering less money: full stop. It's certainly not about "Well why work any harder?" It's that what you have is absolutely out of reach, no matter how hard you work.