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She says she became a conservative partly because she was convinced by a video by Candace Owens about the real truth of George Floyd. Ouch! What was so convinci
by msie 4y ago
She says she became a conservative partly because she was convinced by a video by Candace Owens about the real truth of George Floyd. Ouch! What was so convincing in that video that justified the death of George Floyd? On multiple occasions Candace Owens has been rightfully ridiculed (on various matters) so I doubt I'll see any insight in her video.
- lax4ever 4y agoI'm not entirely certain that anyone was suggesting that George Floyd's death was justified.
- ianai 4y agoI took the crux was she felt guilt about “white privilege” and some “guy” on social media said she didn’t have to feel guilt. So therefore everything the media told her was a lie and she’s off with the red pill. But it does serve as a reminder that when people want others to feel guilt to very, very carefully consider whether and how much guilt to actually place. Guilt is a terribly powerful emotion (whole religions run off it-“original sin”) and shouldn’t be wielded too broadly and too irredeemably. It probably shouldn’t be held against people’s kids/family/friends except in very important scenarios (like organized crime), for instance. It probably shouldn’t become something like a prejudicial “scarlet letter” too easily. Etc. and people should generally be given a way back to society and not discarded as trash. (Which maybe that’s what “original sin” does for those religions in a way?)
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- threatofrain 4y agoIMO it is not possible to keep incidents of deep national atrocities in school curriculum while avoiding the generation of non-trivial bitterness, anxiety, or guilt about the past — whether we're talking about Americans learning about slavery or treatment of native populations, Germans learning about Nazism, or the Japanese learning about WW2 atrocities. If the next generation ought feel zero guilt about the past, then the right way to do this is to relegate racial history to graduate studies or strike it from history altogether. Historical atrocities are a serious affront to national pride. Part of why Shinzo Abe was so controversial was because he wanted to strike some matters from history; this is a thing at least because of a shared acute sense of pain that results from this knowledge. I think this is also part of why race in school curriculum is such a big deal right now in conservative politics. The magnitude of "white guilt" surely cannot be because Democrats are talking about it on CNN; it's because every child learns about it in school. There's no cure for this pain quite like not knowing at all.
- xracy 4y agoI don't think the recommended dogma for this is necessarily about feeling guilt per se, but I think a lot of people do end up in that, and it's probably not super healthy. The dogma is more about being compassionate for others and recognizing that they may have had more struggles than you and they certainly have had their own life that has led them to where they are. The times that I have seen this dogma well-enacted it's been about listening to people, and it has not been limited to recognizing this only for people of different races/creeds/colors, but also for people who are acting in a racist way. It's definitely very hard to navigate well, but it has been convincingly correct to me when I saw it happen.
- masswerk 4y agoI'm somewhat out of options in my thought process about this, as well. How does anything justify death by hegemonial power without due process? How does anything justify the particular proceedings? How comes that there is an observable bias?