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For all I disagree with canonical's desktop decisions their long term support of their distro is currently unmatched. You can't get 10 years anywhere else. Can

For all I disagree with canonical's desktop decisions their long term support of their distro is currently unmatched. You can't get 10 years anywhere else. Canonical's (free!) Extended Service Maintainance (ESM) program has been extremely valuable to me for the last decade. They still support security updates on Ubuntu 14.04 (April 2014) till 2024. Hopefully this rebranding of parts of ESM won't change that support.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> You can't get 10 years anywhere else. That's been Red Hat's thing since forever. And Rocky is free.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Good luck leeching Red Hat distributions, apparently no one learned with CentOS.
- gw99 4y ago
  They'll hire all Rocky contributors in under 3 years and turn it into a rolling distribution. That's how Redhat works.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    That's besides the point and probably not accurate anyways. First, my original point is that Ubuntu is only just breaking into the territory already firmly dominated by Red hat. The presence or absence of a free edition of EL doesn't really change that. Second, that's not really how Red Hat works either; even CentOS lasted for longer than 3 years. Finally, even if that was how Red Hat worked, that doesn't mean it's how Rocky works. I'm skeptical that a community operated project is going to come to the exact conditions that led to it being created in the first place. And honestly, even if they somehow did, there's like three other projects all doing free respins of RHEL.
  - hazard 4y ago
    Want to bet? Literally, I mean. I'll bet you $100 that they will not hire all Rocky contributors in under 3 years and turn it into a rolling distribution.
stonogo 4y ago
You can't get ten years from Canonical, either. I've been burned by drivers being dropped from LTS support mid-cycle. Sure, they were obscure drivers, probably with few users. I'm not saying the decision didn't make business sense. But I'll never rely on an Ubuntu LTS again.
evulhotdog 4y ago
Free, for personal use only.
- superkuh 4y ago
  Yes. I am a human person. I care about human person things. Corporate persons can pay.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> You can't get 10 years anywhere else. That's been Red Hat's thing since forever. And Rocky is free.

pjmlp 4y ago
Good luck leeching Red Hat distributions, apparently no one learned with CentOS.
gw99 4y ago
They'll hire all Rocky contributors in under 3 years and turn it into a rolling distribution. That's how Redhat works.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  That's besides the point and probably not accurate anyways. First, my original point is that Ubuntu is only just breaking into the territory already firmly dominated by Red hat. The presence or absence of a free edition of EL doesn't really change that. Second, that's not really how Red Hat works either; even CentOS lasted for longer than 3 years. Finally, even if that was how Red Hat worked, that doesn't mean it's how Rocky works. I'm skeptical that a community operated project is going to come to the exact conditions that led to it being created in the first place. And honestly, even if they somehow did, there's like three other projects all doing free respins of RHEL.
- hazard 4y ago
  Want to bet? Literally, I mean. I'll bet you $100 that they will not hire all Rocky contributors in under 3 years and turn it into a rolling distribution.

stonogo 4y ago

You can't get ten years from Canonical, either. I've been burned by drivers being dropped from LTS support mid-cycle. Sure, they were obscure drivers, probably with few users. I'm not saying the decision didn't make business sense. But I'll never rely on an Ubuntu LTS again.

evulhotdog 4y ago

Free, for personal use only.

superkuh 4y ago
Yes. I am a human person. I care about human person things. Corporate persons can pay.