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>Your point was the 2 tweets mentioned are not enough to ban him; when viewed from a particular vantage point you are correct. It is correct from every vantage

>Your point was the 2 tweets mentioned are not enough to ban him; when viewed from a particular vantage point you are correct. It is correct from every vantage point. Twitter lied about their reasoning. >I'd like to address the other issues too but I feel it would be pointless. Maybe later if I'm feeling frisky. I'm guessing that you're a Trump supporter, so that leads me to this: You know what they say about assuming... >How likely is it to dissuade a person that their religious beliefs are wrong and they should be abandoned? Answer: not at all. People change their religious views all the time. They change sects and religions all the time. People who are atheists join religions and religious people leave religions. >I'm not religious in that sense or politically -- my identity is not associated with any party, candidate, or group. The closest I've come to political worship is having a Feel The Bern shirt as a campaign gift but I don't worship Bernie. I respect him as being consistent and sincere in his beliefs because he's been consistent in his words and actions. Bernie isn't even consistent though. He used to support far stricter rules on immigration but changed likely due to politics. He used to understand you can't have a robust welfare system with mass immigration. >My take is that 99.9% of Bernie supports are like me in that regard. Meanwhile Trump is being literally declared as a gift from God. Both sides are not the same. This is the same with Trump. It just so happens that the 0.1% is very vocal so you think it is widespread. Talk to the average Trump supporter in person and they don't say anything like this. You only hear this sort of thing on the internet.

pstuart 4y ago
> People change their religious views all the time. They change sects and religions all the time. People who are atheists join religions and religious people leave religions. It happens but you make it seem like picking what you want to watch on tv. For those that are devout, the odds are incredibly slim that such a thing happens. > Bernie isn't even consistent though. He used to support far stricter rules on immigration but changed likely due to politics. He used to understand you can't have a robust welfare system with mass immigration. There's a difference between evolving and being a political opportunist. Hillary was beyond qualified for the office but it was clear that she was not driven by the courage of her convictions. > Talk to the average Trump supporter in person and they don't say anything like this Talking to a Trump supporter consistently feels like I'm talking to my teenage son, who delights in disagreeing with me for sport.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  >It happens but you make it seem like picking what you want to watch on tv. For those that are devout, the odds are incredibly slim that such a thing happens. So? People can change. >There's a difference between evolving and being a political opportunist. Hillary was beyond qualified for the office but it was clear that she was not driven by the courage of her convictions. I don't think Bernie evolved on immigration. I think he is a political opportunist. No different than Clinton. >Talking to a Trump supporter consistently feels like I'm talking to my teenage son, who delights in disagreeing with me for sport. Some of that is just being defensive. Some might be trolling. Some could just be deliberately trying to annoy you. That however is mostly online behavior. The average in person conversation with Trump supporters isn't anything like that when I engage with them. If it turns out like that for you, in person, then you are likely putting them on the defensive. Believe it or not, but calling people terrorists and cultists isn't a great way to start discussions.
pstuart 4y ago
> It is correct from every vantage point. Twitter lied about their reasoning. This was right after the January 6th attempted insurrection. The concern about enabling that and more is justifiable.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  It doesn't change the point. Maybe they were concerned about other things, but they still lied. It is not justifiable to claim the ends justify the ends.

pstuart 4y ago

> People change their religious views all the time. They change sects and religions all the time. People who are atheists join religions and religious people leave religions. It happens but you make it seem like picking what you want to watch on tv. For those that are devout, the odds are incredibly slim that such a thing happens. > Bernie isn't even consistent though. He used to support far stricter rules on immigration but changed likely due to politics. He used to understand you can't have a robust welfare system with mass immigration. There's a difference between evolving and being a political opportunist. Hillary was beyond qualified for the office but it was clear that she was not driven by the courage of her convictions. > Talk to the average Trump supporter in person and they don't say anything like this Talking to a Trump supporter consistently feels like I'm talking to my teenage son, who delights in disagreeing with me for sport.

_-david-_ 4y ago
>It happens but you make it seem like picking what you want to watch on tv. For those that are devout, the odds are incredibly slim that such a thing happens. So? People can change. >There's a difference between evolving and being a political opportunist. Hillary was beyond qualified for the office but it was clear that she was not driven by the courage of her convictions. I don't think Bernie evolved on immigration. I think he is a political opportunist. No different than Clinton. >Talking to a Trump supporter consistently feels like I'm talking to my teenage son, who delights in disagreeing with me for sport. Some of that is just being defensive. Some might be trolling. Some could just be deliberately trying to annoy you. That however is mostly online behavior. The average in person conversation with Trump supporters isn't anything like that when I engage with them. If it turns out like that for you, in person, then you are likely putting them on the defensive. Believe it or not, but calling people terrorists and cultists isn't a great way to start discussions.

pstuart 4y ago

> It is correct from every vantage point. Twitter lied about their reasoning. This was right after the January 6th attempted insurrection. The concern about enabling that and more is justifiable.

_-david-_ 4y ago
It doesn't change the point. Maybe they were concerned about other things, but they still lied. It is not justifiable to claim the ends justify the ends.