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people who brag about pirating remind me of a guy I used to live next to who bragged about breaking the comcast junction box, bringing a splitter and accessing

people who brag about pirating remind me of a guy I used to live next to who bragged about breaking the comcast junction box, bringing a splitter and accessing cable through their neighbor. it's a shame that there are so many services, but ultimately the creators/companies want to be paid. my personal strategy have been to unsubscribe from all except YouTube, note which things are good on each service, subscribe for a single month to watch all of them and unsubscribe. it's unlikely to happen, but I'd rather pay a fixed amount and access all of these streaming services and have the money proportionally be divided on my watching patterns.

matheusmoreira 4y ago
> ultimately the creators/companies want to be paid Oh please, enough of this "poor creators" narrative. These copyright monopolists are worth what, trillions of dollars? How many millions are they spending on government lobbying to rob people of their rights? Maybe it's billions?
- endisneigh 4y ago
  Not all creators are hacked by large companies, and even if they are - they deserve compensation, or no?
- scarface74 4y ago
  How is it “your right” to access content other people paid to create?
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    How is it their right to hold a functionally infinite state granted monopoly on easily copied information? How is it their right to push back the expiration date on their copyrights whenever they're about to expire, effectively robbing the public of its public domain rights? How is it their right to abuse DMCA take down process to destroy the concept of fair use?
    - scarface74 4y ago
      How long is free software granted a “state granted monopoly” on easily copied information. Take a cue from the open source movement, if you want free content, take the time to organize enough like minded people to create if.
    - gameman144 4y ago
      > How is it their right to hold a functionally infinite state granted monopoly on easily copied information? It's their right because we've decided as a society that it's often useful for people to have that right. There's no physical reason that knockoff publishers couldn't have printed dirt-cheap paper copies of Harry Potter as the books came out, but I think things ended up better without them being allowed to do that. > How is it their right to push back the expiration date on their copyrights ... [and] to abuse DMCA takedown These are a completely separate issue, and are less so "rights" than "practices which powerful players do and sometimes get away with".
      - collegeburner 4y ago
        ngl me personally i never pay for media (except very rarely a good book i want for my shelf after reading it). if i can't pirate something i just don't consume it. like, there's so much media now no single piece is worth that much. in other words nobody is losing out on anything because i pirate. the alternative (which sometimes happens when i can't find it) is they still get nothing. i don't think people realize how much they spend on media, like lots of my friends are spending $25/mo on video streaming plus another $10 for music. like sports? add espn, another $10. like ufc? add more for pay per view. big reader? another $20/month easy. read lots of news? they all want "just" $10/month or whatever even though most people aren't reading all of one paper like they used to, just a few articles from each. am i gonna spend $700/yr for media? hell naw.
        scarface74 4y ago
        But you value it enough to pirate it. If it was of no value to you, then why pirata it?
- krapp 4y ago
  The vast majority of content creators are not millionaires or billionaires, nor are they usually the ones responsible for enforcing copyright on their work.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

> ultimately the creators/companies want to be paid Oh please, enough of this "poor creators" narrative. These copyright monopolists are worth what, trillions of dollars? How many millions are they spending on government lobbying to rob people of their rights? Maybe it's billions?

endisneigh 4y ago
Not all creators are hacked by large companies, and even if they are - they deserve compensation, or no?
scarface74 4y ago
How is it “your right” to access content other people paid to create?
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  How is it their right to hold a functionally infinite state granted monopoly on easily copied information? How is it their right to push back the expiration date on their copyrights whenever they're about to expire, effectively robbing the public of its public domain rights? How is it their right to abuse DMCA take down process to destroy the concept of fair use?
  - scarface74 4y ago
    How long is free software granted a “state granted monopoly” on easily copied information. Take a cue from the open source movement, if you want free content, take the time to organize enough like minded people to create if.
  - gameman144 4y ago
    > How is it their right to hold a functionally infinite state granted monopoly on easily copied information? It's their right because we've decided as a society that it's often useful for people to have that right. There's no physical reason that knockoff publishers couldn't have printed dirt-cheap paper copies of Harry Potter as the books came out, but I think things ended up better without them being allowed to do that. > How is it their right to push back the expiration date on their copyrights ... [and] to abuse DMCA takedown These are a completely separate issue, and are less so "rights" than "practices which powerful players do and sometimes get away with".
    - collegeburner 4y ago
      ngl me personally i never pay for media (except very rarely a good book i want for my shelf after reading it). if i can't pirate something i just don't consume it. like, there's so much media now no single piece is worth that much. in other words nobody is losing out on anything because i pirate. the alternative (which sometimes happens when i can't find it) is they still get nothing. i don't think people realize how much they spend on media, like lots of my friends are spending $25/mo on video streaming plus another $10 for music. like sports? add espn, another $10. like ufc? add more for pay per view. big reader? another $20/month easy. read lots of news? they all want "just" $10/month or whatever even though most people aren't reading all of one paper like they used to, just a few articles from each. am i gonna spend $700/yr for media? hell naw.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        But you value it enough to pirate it. If it was of no value to you, then why pirata it?
krapp 4y ago
The vast majority of content creators are not millionaires or billionaires, nor are they usually the ones responsible for enforcing copyright on their work.