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I also enjoy APIs, and I also have started to revert back to flying the jolly roger if there's not a reasonable ad-free paid means of watching things. I don't c

I also enjoy APIs, and I also have started to revert back to flying the jolly roger if there's not a reasonable ad-free paid means of watching things. I don't care enough about most of this stuff to be tortured and abused to experience it.

bradleyjg 4y ago
Have you considered not watching instead? There’s plenty of books in the library with no ads.
- libraryatnight 4y ago
  My username isn't libraryatnight because I don't read ;)
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  Nah. We'll consume media on our terms and these companies are going to have to deal with it.
  - bradleyjg 4y ago
    I’m sure you’ll get exactly the content you deserve.
    - matheusmoreira 4y ago
      Hell yes I'm gonna get exactly what I deserve. Because I actually pay for these crappy streaming services and what I get is horribly compressed "high definition" video loaded with artifacts on even 90% black frames that I can't even download to my device which means service is interrupted if I lose my internet connection. Meanwhile the "pirates" are getting DRM free extremely high quality Blu-Ray encodes they can watch whenever they want on a player that doesn't suck such as mpv.
      - nobodyandproud 4y ago
        With high quality subtitles and captions missing from the paid services.
        matheusmoreira 4y ago
        Nope. You can easily find subtitles for literally anything on the internet. Some players even download them automatically. "Pirates" in the anime community pretty much invented this subtitling technology. You bet this data is included, either in the container file or as separate subtitle files. Meanwhile HBO lacks english closed captioning for most of its content. They give me subtitles for spanish sometimes even though it's not my native language. Not to mention the obnoxious censorship and inaccurate translations.
        arm 4y ago
        The person you replied to is actually agreeing with you: > With high quality subtitles and captions missing from the paid services.
        matheusmoreira 4y ago
        You're right, I think I misunderstood the comment. I'm probably too angry to reply coherently right now so I'm gonna disappear for a while. I apologize to the person I replied to above.
        lostlogin 4y ago
        This thread shows how you end up with Radarr/Sonarr and vpn/torrent or NZB sources. Automated, reliable and good quality.
    - whateveracct 4y ago
      I actually get better quality streamed sports games over VLC network streams than the NBA can offer me for money. I did pay for a League Pass. I still watched the illegal stream instead. The streamer would even play music over ads and put gifs and images over the in-game ads during free throws and the like.
      - matheusmoreira 4y ago
        > The streamer would even play music over ads and put gifs and images over the in-game ads during free throws and the like. That's freaking awesome. I wonder if one day we'll have some kind of machine learning video adblock software to do this automatically...
        whateveracct 4y ago
        It's definitely come to mind. It shouldn't be hard for an end-user to even train it on their specific videos.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      You mean the content I want? Here's my average Netflix experience: I want to watch X. I search X on Neflix, and learn that Netflix doesn't have it because they only have a few thousand movies which is abysmal. I then spend the next two hours aimlessly browsing the Netflix catalogue searching for something kind of similar to X, but nothing is and I have to give up having watched nothing. Here's my average pirating experience: I want to watch X. I search X on TPB and find exactly what I want with a few seeds. Half an hour later I am watching X.
      - bradleyjg 4y ago
        Here’s my average work experience: I go into the office and have to deal with annoying customers. Then I have to respond to emails. Finally, I get my paycheck and it isn’t even that much money. Here’s my average fraud experience. I send out a few thousand scam emails and money starts pouring into my bank account.
        MichaelCollins 4y ago
        Do you think this analogy can guilt-trip me into paying for a product that doesn't give me anything I want? Think again. It's a crap analogy, not least because you don't actually have the experience you describe but I do have the experience I described above. You have not lived a life of crime, probably because you don't really believe it would go as well as you suppose in your analogy. Do you really believe that crime would be more profitable for you in the long run? Career criminals work harder and make less. They do this because they can't cope with some aspect of regular employment, like staying off drugs and showing up on time. They get caught eventually and their life becomes a ruin. If you really think you have what it takes to become one of the rare successful robber-barons who can steal your way to luxury, then you're probably mistaken. But I can get the movies I want to watch, but not with Netflix. Netflix doesn't have what I want, so I'm simply not going to pay for it. Throw all the insults you want, none of it will change anything.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Your experience is completely different than mine. I find one slow seeder that doesn’t have what I want or find a low quality rip in a language I don’t know. Or I can just search on Google and usually find it either on a streaming service I subscribe to or it will give me a list of places I can rent it. I will gladly pay three bucks not to have to deal with bit torrent
- saurik 4y ago
  This smells like an opportunity! https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-leave-ads-in-library-books https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-leave-ads-in-library-bo...
- FpUser 4y ago
  It is like comparing apples and oranges. I read a lot but also watch movie every once in a while. Those are 2 different animals.
- scarface74 4y ago
  “I hate my Honda Accord” “Have you ever considered walking?” Also see: “I haven’t watch TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”
  - bradleyjg 4y ago
    “I hate my Honda Accord” “Have you ever considered walking?” If the suggested alternative was stealing another Honda Accord, that would be a reasonable question.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      The alternative the commenter gave was “reading books” instead of “watching TV”.
    - stormbrew 4y ago
      In this case it's as if you can only drive on certain roads if you have a Honda Accord, and maybe in the country you're in the Honda Accord isn't even available to buy legally but there are still roads you can only use if you have one.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Well that’s not the case, I can get all of the content I want on either my AppleTV, Roku, iPhone, etc. People want the government to step in because it’s inconvenient for them to pay for the content they want.
      - bradleyjg 4y ago
        I just don’t get it. You (collectively) hate the TV industry but love TV shows and can’t live without them? Is that the basic idea? Do you think you can still get the TV shows you love if you evade the TV industries monetization mechanisms? Or is the plan that everyone else will continue to pay and so it’ll all be okay? Something else? What’s the end game here? FWIW I don’t watch TV. Not because I hate the industry or out of principle but because it’s just not very entertaining to me.
lo_zamoyski 4y ago
I would be interested to see the relationship between subscription revenues and production + delivery costs. Newspapers, for example, could never sustain themselves on subscriptions and purchases alone. Those that seem financially well off are likely subsidized by some rich guy or whatever.

bradleyjg 4y ago

Have you considered not watching instead? There’s plenty of books in the library with no ads.

libraryatnight 4y ago
My username isn't libraryatnight because I don't read ;)
matheusmoreira 4y ago
Nah. We'll consume media on our terms and these companies are going to have to deal with it.
- bradleyjg 4y ago
  I’m sure you’ll get exactly the content you deserve.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    Hell yes I'm gonna get exactly what I deserve. Because I actually pay for these crappy streaming services and what I get is horribly compressed "high definition" video loaded with artifacts on even 90% black frames that I can't even download to my device which means service is interrupted if I lose my internet connection. Meanwhile the "pirates" are getting DRM free extremely high quality Blu-Ray encodes they can watch whenever they want on a player that doesn't suck such as mpv.
    - nobodyandproud 4y ago
      With high quality subtitles and captions missing from the paid services.
      - matheusmoreira 4y ago
        Nope. You can easily find subtitles for literally anything on the internet. Some players even download them automatically. "Pirates" in the anime community pretty much invented this subtitling technology. You bet this data is included, either in the container file or as separate subtitle files. Meanwhile HBO lacks english closed captioning for most of its content. They give me subtitles for spanish sometimes even though it's not my native language. Not to mention the obnoxious censorship and inaccurate translations.
        arm 4y ago
        The person you replied to is actually agreeing with you: > With high quality subtitles and captions missing from the paid services.
        matheusmoreira 4y ago
        You're right, I think I misunderstood the comment. I'm probably too angry to reply coherently right now so I'm gonna disappear for a while. I apologize to the person I replied to above.
        lostlogin 4y ago
        This thread shows how you end up with Radarr/Sonarr and vpn/torrent or NZB sources. Automated, reliable and good quality.
  - whateveracct 4y ago
    I actually get better quality streamed sports games over VLC network streams than the NBA can offer me for money. I did pay for a League Pass. I still watched the illegal stream instead. The streamer would even play music over ads and put gifs and images over the in-game ads during free throws and the like.
    - matheusmoreira 4y ago
      > The streamer would even play music over ads and put gifs and images over the in-game ads during free throws and the like. That's freaking awesome. I wonder if one day we'll have some kind of machine learning video adblock software to do this automatically...
      - whateveracct 4y ago
        It's definitely come to mind. It shouldn't be hard for an end-user to even train it on their specific videos.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    You mean the content I want? Here's my average Netflix experience: I want to watch X. I search X on Neflix, and learn that Netflix doesn't have it because they only have a few thousand movies which is abysmal. I then spend the next two hours aimlessly browsing the Netflix catalogue searching for something kind of similar to X, but nothing is and I have to give up having watched nothing. Here's my average pirating experience: I want to watch X. I search X on TPB and find exactly what I want with a few seeds. Half an hour later I am watching X.
    - bradleyjg 4y ago
      Here’s my average work experience: I go into the office and have to deal with annoying customers. Then I have to respond to emails. Finally, I get my paycheck and it isn’t even that much money. Here’s my average fraud experience. I send out a few thousand scam emails and money starts pouring into my bank account.
      - MichaelCollins 4y ago
        Do you think this analogy can guilt-trip me into paying for a product that doesn't give me anything I want? Think again. It's a crap analogy, not least because you don't actually have the experience you describe but I do have the experience I described above. You have not lived a life of crime, probably because you don't really believe it would go as well as you suppose in your analogy. Do you really believe that crime would be more profitable for you in the long run? Career criminals work harder and make less. They do this because they can't cope with some aspect of regular employment, like staying off drugs and showing up on time. They get caught eventually and their life becomes a ruin. If you really think you have what it takes to become one of the rare successful robber-barons who can steal your way to luxury, then you're probably mistaken. But I can get the movies I want to watch, but not with Netflix. Netflix doesn't have what I want, so I'm simply not going to pay for it. Throw all the insults you want, none of it will change anything.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Your experience is completely different than mine. I find one slow seeder that doesn’t have what I want or find a low quality rip in a language I don’t know. Or I can just search on Google and usually find it either on a streaming service I subscribe to or it will give me a list of places I can rent it. I will gladly pay three bucks not to have to deal with bit torrent
saurik 4y ago
This smells like an opportunity! https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-leave-ads-in-library-books https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-leave-ads-in-library-bo...
FpUser 4y ago
It is like comparing apples and oranges. I read a lot but also watch movie every once in a while. Those are 2 different animals.
scarface74 4y ago
“I hate my Honda Accord” “Have you ever considered walking?” Also see: “I haven’t watch TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”
- bradleyjg 4y ago
  “I hate my Honda Accord” “Have you ever considered walking?” If the suggested alternative was stealing another Honda Accord, that would be a reasonable question.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    The alternative the commenter gave was “reading books” instead of “watching TV”.
  - stormbrew 4y ago
    In this case it's as if you can only drive on certain roads if you have a Honda Accord, and maybe in the country you're in the Honda Accord isn't even available to buy legally but there are still roads you can only use if you have one.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Well that’s not the case, I can get all of the content I want on either my AppleTV, Roku, iPhone, etc. People want the government to step in because it’s inconvenient for them to pay for the content they want.
    - bradleyjg 4y ago
      I just don’t get it. You (collectively) hate the TV industry but love TV shows and can’t live without them? Is that the basic idea? Do you think you can still get the TV shows you love if you evade the TV industries monetization mechanisms? Or is the plan that everyone else will continue to pay and so it’ll all be okay? Something else? What’s the end game here? FWIW I don’t watch TV. Not because I hate the industry or out of principle but because it’s just not very entertaining to me.

lo_zamoyski 4y ago

I would be interested to see the relationship between subscription revenues and production + delivery costs. Newspapers, for example, could never sustain themselves on subscriptions and purchases alone. Those that seem financially well off are likely subsidized by some rich guy or whatever.