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Meta’s flagship metaverse app is too buggy and employees are barely using it

19 points by metadat 4y ago

dbbk 4y ago
They can't even find product market fit with their own employees! How long are they going to keep blindly going down this path?
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  Until shareholders realize that the cost of ousting Zucc is less than the cost of keeping him around.
  - dbbk 4y ago
    The shareholders can't vote him out.
    - kelseyfrog 4y ago
      You're right. I searched for ownership numbers before posting my comment, but I should have looked for voting control. Thank you.
metadat 4y ago
> In a memo to employees dated September 15th, Meta’s VP of Metaverse, Vishal Shah, said the team would remain in a “quality lockdown” for the rest of the year to “ensure that we fix our quality gaps and performance issues before we open up Horizon to more users.” Even without the bugs, who'd want to use it? I don't like wearing the VR helmet, it's nauseating and isolating from the the real world. I will say that I like the sound of Vishal Shah. An engineering leader who secures buy-in for a multi-month feature freeze in order to resolve excessive bugs deserves praise and respect. Even if the deliverable might probably be a zucky pig lipstick situation. (Is MetaPharse a thing yet?)
- dev_0 4y ago
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ivraatiems 4y ago
If I wanted to hang out in a cartoon world with a bunch of other cartoon people, I'd go play VRChat or Second Life. How is this any different, other than being a massive waste of Meta's time and money?
- omeze 4y ago
  I agree, this feels like AOL trying to compete with the open public internet
- oneoff786 4y ago
  It’s a dream of being a platform for VR to get to skim the fat off of everything like Apple’s App Store.
evolve2k 4y ago
I keep reflecting on this and the more I look at it the more skeptical I become. I think three things are driving Zucks metaverse play: 1. He needed to escape scandal engulfing his whole company, rebranding to meta has been a grand distraction probably buying him multiple years away from scrutiny as everyone is distracted with his "cyberspace 2.0" vision. 2. Apple has squeezed the cash cow, ad sales are stuffed on iPhone now. It's like a drug dealer banned from the best nightclubs. In desperation they try to open their own club where people can buy all their wares. In this case a place where he can set all the rules and sell as much ads and collect as much data as he wants. Sort of “Screw this we need to make our own space for people to hang out.. aha meta space/verse.” 3. His hardware play is already on VR, and with Occulus etc he has the hardware but he needs to build the narrative or his hardware is all just niche novelty tech. If he can make the Metaverse ‘important’ his hardware could turn into the new Facebook platform (to rival apple's vertical integration) That's my take. I'm skeptical of long term success. If I see AR/VR glasses starting to breakthrough mainstream I'd reassess. Just been mulling over this. My 2 cents. Of course I could be missing all the signs of the next big thing, but honestly I don’t think so.
oneoff786 4y ago
> He said that employees working on Horizon will their targets for growing users in VR lowered and that the coming 2D version of Horizon for web wouldn’t likely have a user target but instead a “high quality bar.” A 2D version of their VR world? What? Charitably assuming they meant a 3D interface just on screens… still, wtf are they thinking?
animitronix 4y ago
The metaverse is going to be the end of Facebook, and I'm here for it.

19 points by metadat 4y ago

dbbk 4y ago

They can't even find product market fit with their own employees! How long are they going to keep blindly going down this path?

kelseyfrog 4y ago
Until shareholders realize that the cost of ousting Zucc is less than the cost of keeping him around.
- dbbk 4y ago
  The shareholders can't vote him out.
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    You're right. I searched for ownership numbers before posting my comment, but I should have looked for voting control. Thank you.

metadat 4y ago

> In a memo to employees dated September 15th, Meta’s VP of Metaverse, Vishal Shah, said the team would remain in a “quality lockdown” for the rest of the year to “ensure that we fix our quality gaps and performance issues before we open up Horizon to more users.” Even without the bugs, who'd want to use it? I don't like wearing the VR helmet, it's nauseating and isolating from the the real world. I will say that I like the sound of Vishal Shah. An engineering leader who secures buy-in for a multi-month feature freeze in order to resolve excessive bugs deserves praise and respect. Even if the deliverable might probably be a zucky pig lipstick situation. (Is MetaPharse a thing yet?)

dev_0 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
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ivraatiems 4y ago

If I wanted to hang out in a cartoon world with a bunch of other cartoon people, I'd go play VRChat or Second Life. How is this any different, other than being a massive waste of Meta's time and money?

omeze 4y ago
I agree, this feels like AOL trying to compete with the open public internet
oneoff786 4y ago
It’s a dream of being a platform for VR to get to skim the fat off of everything like Apple’s App Store.

evolve2k 4y ago

I keep reflecting on this and the more I look at it the more skeptical I become. I think three things are driving Zucks metaverse play: 1. He needed to escape scandal engulfing his whole company, rebranding to meta has been a grand distraction probably buying him multiple years away from scrutiny as everyone is distracted with his "cyberspace 2.0" vision. 2. Apple has squeezed the cash cow, ad sales are stuffed on iPhone now. It's like a drug dealer banned from the best nightclubs. In desperation they try to open their own club where people can buy all their wares. In this case a place where he can set all the rules and sell as much ads and collect as much data as he wants. Sort of “Screw this we need to make our own space for people to hang out.. aha meta space/verse.” 3. His hardware play is already on VR, and with Occulus etc he has the hardware but he needs to build the narrative or his hardware is all just niche novelty tech. If he can make the Metaverse ‘important’ his hardware could turn into the new Facebook platform (to rival apple's vertical integration) That's my take. I'm skeptical of long term success. If I see AR/VR glasses starting to breakthrough mainstream I'd reassess. Just been mulling over this. My 2 cents. Of course I could be missing all the signs of the next big thing, but honestly I don’t think so.

oneoff786 4y ago

> He said that employees working on Horizon will their targets for growing users in VR lowered and that the coming 2D version of Horizon for web wouldn’t likely have a user target but instead a “high quality bar.” A 2D version of their VR world? What? Charitably assuming they meant a 3D interface just on screens… still, wtf are they thinking?

animitronix 4y ago

The metaverse is going to be the end of Facebook, and I'm here for it.